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Dude
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I'm sure we have covered this one before, but this site (with video) may be new to people. I just surfed accross it today.
http://www.galluppoll.com/videoArchive/?ci=23188&pg=
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 11/13/2006 : 13:56:22 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
I'm sure we have covered this one before, but this site (with video) may be new to people. I just surfed accross it today.
http://www.galluppoll.com/videoArchive/?ci=23188&pg=
Thanks, Dude! That made the Gallup Poll results much clearer to my mind.
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
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furshur
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USA
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Posted - 11/13/2006 : 22:52:13 [Permalink]
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I got to thinking. I wonder if they asked something like, "do you think the earth is at the center of the universe?" or "is the earth hollow?", if they would get the same type of breakdown in the answers. I suspect they would. I don't think it is so much religious conviction as just plain ignorance.
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Ricky
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 11/14/2006 : 00:25:48 [Permalink]
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When I was a High School senior back in 1963 (rambling nostalgic old guy alert!), I made up a silly questionnaire which my biology teachers kindly handed out to the Juniors in their two classes. One of the (among about 20) questions went something like this:
Gravity is caused by:
1. The mass of the earth.
2. Magnetism near the earth's poles.
3. The weight of objects.
4. Centrifugal force of the earth's rotation.
The winner was, of course, answer number 4. Number 1 came in last-place.
And that is merely the most memorable of the results. Most questions were answered incorrectly.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Starman
SFN Regular
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Posted - 11/14/2006 : 01:04:01 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by HalfMooner
Gravity is caused by:
1. The mass of the earth.
2. Magnetism near the earth's poles.
3. The weight of objects.
4. Centrifugal force of the earth's rotation.
5. Intelligent suction (which is a scientific theory and has nothing to do with religion as it is not about the nature of the Sucker)
6. Jesus
7. Angels & Saints
The answer is of course 5 (even if we all know that it is 6.)
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 11/14/2006 : 02:32:18 [Permalink]
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Ricky remarked: quote:
The vast majority of Creationists I've ever known became offended whenever comparisons to the geocentric model of the solar system were made.
I'd be very shocked if such answers were above 1-3% for geocentric.
Yup, funny, isn't it. Such "theories" really do eventually get thrown into the dustbin of knowledge. I expect that within a few decades, the intellectual descendants of the Creationists will feel insulted when they are reminded of Creationism, too, and will have good arguments on hand as to why the bible never really meant to say the the earth was created in six days, 6,000 years ago.
And they'll be doing this while arguing with scientists over whether or not their new "Controlled Big Bang" is proper science.
The struggle will probably never completely end, but more and more turf has been essentially abandoned to rationality by Fundies. Flat-earth and geocentrism are embarrassing memories, and soon Creationism will be one, too. Flat-earth and geocentrism were once as central to "Biblical inerrancy" as is Creationism is today. Logically speaking, they still are, but they've had to be abandoned by all but a few boneheaded holdouts.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/14/2006 : 07:23:27 [Permalink]
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Half said:
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I expect that within a few decades, the intellectual descendants of the Creationists will feel insulted when they are reminded of Creationism, too, and will have good arguments on hand as to why the bible never really meant to say the the earth was created in six days, 6,000 years ago.
I'd agree with you except for one thing. This new US fundamentalism we are seeing is relatively new. In 1970 there wasn't any such thing as a "mega-church", and the whole US fundamentalist religious movement arose out of the pre-WW2 depression with when "faith" healers learned they could bilk a lot of money out of poor people with a little act.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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ergo123
BANNED
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Posted - 11/14/2006 : 11:07:04 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Starman
quote:
Originally posted by HalfMooner
Gravity is caused by:
1. The mass of the earth.
2. Magnetism near the earth's poles.
3. The weight of objects.
4. Centrifugal force of the earth's rotation.
5. Intelligent suction (which is a scientific theory and has nothing to do with religion as it is not about the nature of the Sucker)
6. Jesus
7. Angels & Saints
The answer is of course 5 (even if we all know that it is 6.)
You people can't be serious. It's right in the Gospels of the Flying Spaghetti Monster... He holds everything down on the ground with his noodly appendages.
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 11/14/2006 : 11:28:26 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Ricky
The vast majority of Creationists I've ever known became offended whenever comparisons to the geocentric model of the solar system were made.
I'd be very shocked if such answers were above 1-3% for geocentric.
More like 20%.
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"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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furshur
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 11/14/2006 : 13:18:11 [Permalink]
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I asked a friend of my son (who is a member of national honor society and a highschool senior) how many US soldiers had been killed in Iraq and he said 1,000,000! Thank science my son corrected him and said it was 'about' 5,000.
I think half the people who believe in this stuff like god and the young age of the earth never really give it any thought.
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