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Ignatius
New Member
USA
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 Posted - 02/15/2002 : 12:07:11
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Hello everyone,
Great forum you have here. This is my first time visiting. I frequent the JREF forum (www.randi.org). I have been gathering skeptical resources to do some file sharing (mp3's, AVI's, text documents) with Morpheus or Bearshare or others. Is anyone here interested and do you have anything that you would like to contribute?
"The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact than a drunken man is happier than a sober one." -- George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
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PhDreamer
SFN Regular
USA
925 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2002 : 13:35:12 [Permalink]
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We have a couple of old AOL accounts for the office and I log on and poke around about once a week. They have an atheism message board that is fiercely cliquish but they also have a library of documents that the regulars stick up there when they see something that catches their fancies. They have a variety of things there, like 10 Commandments comparisons, Pascal's Wager discussions just to name a couple that I happen to have on my hard drive. I don't know if this stuff is copyrighted but I'll check it out; it seems like the kind of thing you might be looking for.
Laws of Thermodynamics:
1. You cannot win.
2. You cannot break even.
3. You cannot stop playing the game. |
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dimossi
Skeptic Friend
USA
141 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2002 : 14:06:00 [Permalink]
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Ignatius -
I think your file sharing idea is great. It would be wonderful to have a private FTP server just for sketpical resources.
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We have a couple of old AOL accounts for the office and I log on and poke around about once a week. They have an atheism message board that is fiercely cliquish but they also have a library of documents that the regulars stick up there when they see something that catches their fancies. They have a variety of things there, like 10 Commandments comparisons, Pascal's Wager discussions just to name a couple that I happen to have on my hard drive. I don't know if this stuff is copyrighted but I'll check it out; it seems like the kind of thing you might be looking for.
PhDreamer -
I see your from FL and a volleyball player/coach. You ever play in my neck of the woods? Siesta Key beach volleyball is my 'religion' every weekend. 
"Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy." [Carl Sagan] |
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Lars_H
SFN Regular
Germany
630 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2002 : 15:45:11 [Permalink]
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Sounds good but is somthing like that actually needed?
Most of the stuff of interest for skeptics would be plaintext kind of things. The ocasional scan of a picture or an audio file if one could not get a transcript.
Is there really enough relevant multimedia material to make this worthwile?
I always thought that it were all those flashy stuff that distracted from the facts that sceptics were supposed to look for.
If there is enough material, it might be a good idea. But I don't think that Gnutella-type filesharing would do us much good in this case and FTP space is not easy to come by. Maybe something via a skeptic IRC channel?
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PhDreamer
SFN Regular
USA
925 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2002 : 15:47:20 [Permalink]
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PhDreamer -
I see your from FL and a volleyball player/coach. You ever play in my neck of the woods? Siesta Key beach volleyball is my 'religion' every weekend.
Although I understand it's the part of the sport that non-players enjoy, I have always seen beach as an inferior game. Just too much of a slop-fest for my tastes. I played indoors at the club level for years. I was recruited by SUNY-Rochester (D-III) as a setter but I tore my ACL before my visit. I'm thinking about giving USAV nationals one more go this year but I have yet to make it completely through a practice (my repaired knee is starting to implode again).
I hate to sound arrogant about my dislike for beach, maybe it's because I'm 5'9, 145 and I never matched up well against 6'2 200. The gym is just the great equalizer for me.
Laws of Thermodynamics:
1. You cannot win.
2. You cannot break even.
3. You cannot stop playing the game. |
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@tomic
Administrator
USA
4607 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2002 : 15:57:55 [Permalink]
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We have a ton of space and bandwidth here if you want to start a Download section.
@tomic
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dimossi
Skeptic Friend
USA
141 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2002 : 20:14:47 [Permalink]
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Although I understand it's the part of the sport that non-players enjoy, I have always seen beach as an inferior game. Just too much of a slop-fest for my tastes. I played indoors at the club level for years. I was recruited by SUNY-Rochester (D-III) as a setter but I tore my ACL before my visit. I'm thinking about giving USAV nationals one more go this year but I have yet to make it completely through a practice (my repaired knee is starting to implode again).
I hate to sound arrogant about my dislike for beach, maybe it's because I'm 5'9, 145 and I never matched up well against 6'2 200. The gym is just the great equalizer for me.
Laws of Thermodynamics:
1. You cannot win.
2. You cannot break even.
3. You cannot stop playing the game.
Interesting. I view indoor in a similar way. I play strictly 2-man beach. I view indoor as a game that is too position specific, injuries are too frequent, the court seems cluttered with bodies, and most of all there is no beautiful sandy beach, cool ocean water, and bright sun to enjoy. To live in FLORIDA and then only play indoor while shunning BEACH volleyball is nonsensical.
I have witnessed numerous pro-indoor players come out to the beach and really struggle with the elements as well as having to cover more court than their usual 'assigned' position.
Sure there are social type players playing "jungle ball" type play on the beach, but there are also some of the best players on the East Coast that play at Siesta Key. Many of the players on Siesta, including myself, have played, or continue to play, Open division in The Bud Light, Captain Morgan's, and AVP qualifiers. Some of these players have placed in the tourneys and even played on the AVP tour for a short time. I seriously doubt any of these players would view outdoor as 'inferior'. I certainly don't.
IMO, they are basically 2 different types of games and to say one is superior to another is ignorant. And I have a feeling I know what my 'bros' on the beach would say to your statement, "Bring it".
"Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy." [Carl Sagan]
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PhDreamer
SFN Regular
USA
925 Posts |
Posted - 02/17/2002 : 12:47:40 [Permalink]
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Interesting. I view indoor in a similar way. I play strictly 2-man beach. I view indoor as a game that is too position specific, injuries are too frequent, the court seems cluttered with bodies, and most of all there is no beautiful sandy beach, cool ocean water, and bright sun to enjoy. To live in FLORIDA and then only play indoor while shunning BEACH volleyball is nonsensical.
Don't get me wrong, I spend my share of time at the beach and more than occasionally I end up on the court. I have just given up tournament play. When I was in Tallahassee in 1996, a friend asked me to play in the Bud Light here in Pensacola. Come 7 AM Saturday morning, it was raining and seriously windy. I went back to sleep. My friend calls me at about 8:30 telling me to come to the beach and they would make a decision about whether to cancel or not. They ended up playing, in the rain, 25 mph steady winds with 35 mph gusts and I was so pissed that I couldn't see straight. Volleyball shouldn't be about battling monsoons. Anyway, I have since been too prejudiced to enter another tournament.
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I have witnessed numerous pro-indoor players come out to the beach and really struggle with the elements as well as having to cover more court than their usual 'assigned' position.
Quite true. And the opposite is true for beach players that come indoors. The indoor hitting approach is completely different, indoor defense is more about discipline than reading, passing indoors requires more precision. Coaching has given me an interesting perspective on the physical differences between the games.
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Sure there are social type players playing "jungle ball" type play on the beach, but there are also some of the best players on the East Coast that play at Siesta Key. Many of the players on Siesta, including myself, have played, or continue to play, Open division in The Bud Light, Captain Morgan's, and AVP qualifiers. Some of these players have placed in the tourneys and even played on the AVP tour for a short time. I seriously doubt any of these players would view outdoor as 'inferior'. I certainly don't.
IMO, they are basically 2 different types of games and to say one is superior to another is ignorant. And I have a feeling I know what my 'bros' on the beach would say to your statement, "Bring it".
I must admit, "inferior" was an abysmal choice of words to convey a mere opinion. Beach players are no less athletes than indoor players. We can easily agree to disagree about the relative merits of each game but we would both agree that each game requires a tremendous amount of skill and practice. Who knows, as my indoor career winds down, I might find new life on the beach as many have done.
Laws of Thermodynamics:
1. You cannot win.
2. You cannot break even.
3. You cannot stop playing the game. |
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