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Randy
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Posted - 06/07/2008 :  17:23:04  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7440217.stm

"A team of physicists has claimed that our view of the early Universe may contain the signature of a time before the Big Bang."

Good topic for that next Monday morning coffee break.

"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson

Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
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Posted - 06/07/2008 :  18:15:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good stuff. Another article touching on some of these topics was noted in last week's summary.
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Simon
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Posted - 06/08/2008 :  07:51:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am duly impressed; that's pure coolness on a stick!

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996
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Hat Monster
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Posted - 06/19/2008 :  16:33:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Hat Monster's Homepage  Send Hat Monster an ICQ Message Send Hat Monster a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not quite.

Beyond the media spin on this, it's a rather weak assertion. It assumes a very specific type of 'precursor universe' (which we do not have any evidence whatsoever of) and attempts to predict from there.

An interesting mathematical curiousity, but far from a representation of reality.
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filthy
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Posted - 06/19/2008 :  17:12:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Um, I didn't see any assertions beyond tentitive hypothsis, Hat. In science, those come and go every day as new information is gathered. How the media spin those hypothisis matters not at all.

Myself, as a layman, I'll just have to wait & see.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/19/2008 :  19:45:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hat Monster is not exactly new.

Welcome back!

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Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 06/20/2008 :  02:59:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Hat Monster is not exactly new.

Welcome back!
Wow! It's been a while, hasn't it? But, he's new to me so my welcome still stands.

How come gone so long, Hat? Were you also on the old forum?




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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