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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/06/2008 :  21:15:50  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Poll Question:
Who would win in a free-for-all, anything-goes cage match?

Edited: please vote in the second semi-final.

Results:
James "The Amazing" Randi   [6%] 218 votes
PZ "The Violator" Myers   [36%] 1313 votes
Daniel "Danger Man" Dennett   [1%] 53 votes
Robert "The Brain" Carroll   [0%] 5 votes
Susan "Death" Blackmore   [1%] 27 votes
Phil "Bad-Ast" Plait   [5%] 183 votes
Christopher "Drunken Monkey" Hitchens   [24%] 858 votes
Sam “The Hammer” Harris   [4%] 130 votes
Carl "The Zombie" Sagan   [8%] 281 votes
Michael "Weird Thing" Shermer   [2%] 57 votes
Joe "Man of 1,000 Faces" Nickell   [0%] 9 votes
Ray "Psych Buster" Hyman   [0%] 3 votes
Harriet "The Doctor" Hall   [0%] 18 votes
Richard "The Rottweiler" Dawkins   [13%] 453 votes
Name your own champion (in a reply, please)   [0%] 16 votes


Poll Status: Locked  »»   Total Votes: 3624 counted  »»   Last Vote: 09/03/2008 12:58:25 

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Ricky
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Posted - 08/06/2008 :  22:04:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
Randi? He's a small man with a bad heart, not a winning combination. Unless of course he has a knife up his sleeve.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
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Edited by - Ricky on 08/06/2008 22:05:19
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filthy
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Posted - 08/07/2008 :  01:07:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Is this an intellectual cage match or a physical one?




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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/07/2008 :  06:47:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Originally posted by filthy

Is this an intellectual cage match or a physical one?
We've left it purposefully ambiguous. Could be both.

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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 08/07/2008 :  06:55:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
Originally posted by Ricky

Randi? He's a small man with a bad heart, not a winning combination. Unless of course he has a knife up his sleeve.

Well, Dave said "anything-goes", so I guess he could have.


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Kil
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Posted - 08/07/2008 :  08:23:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
Originally posted by filthy

Is this an intellectual cage match or a physical one?




Other attributes may figure in too. While I didn't choose him, and I sometimes I think he is wrong, (the war) I would be pretty loath to get into a debate with Christopher Hitchens.


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filthy
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Posted - 08/07/2008 :  08:28:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by filthy

Is this an intellectual cage match or a physical one?
We've left it purposefully ambiguous. Could be both.
Okey-dokey, here's mine: Bill "Snakebite" Haast. Smarter'n tougher'n meaner'n 'em all!



The snake is an Egyptian cobra.




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pleco
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Posted - 08/07/2008 :  10:51:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send pleco a Private Message
I would vote for Pat Tillman - football player and military and non-religious - kick everyone's ass.

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bngbuck
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Posted - 08/07/2008 :  12:58:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message
Dave.....

Poll Question:
Who would win in a free-for-all, anything-goes cage match?
Who would win what against whom?

Here you give a list of intellectual legends; all of the same general skeptical, anti woo-woo mindset. Do you mean:

1. Who would most effectively destroy a fundie, Catholic, or screwloose religious/paranormal wacko opponent? OR:

2. Who would win in a mass discussion or debate involving all of them, presumably arguing with each other about the minor differences in their philosophies? In a debate, what would be the nature of the Resolved proposition? OR:

3. Who would come off the most effective star performer in a mass battle of wits (hopefully not biceps) involving their team of skeptic/atheists versus a Ray Comfort type team of fundies, woo-woos, and Catholic, Jewish, Islamic etc. theologians? OR, simply:

4. Who is your favorite high-profile skeptic/debunker/iconoclast?


If you say "all of the above" , it will be very frustrating!
We've left it purposefully ambiguous. Could be both.
I've never seen any of them in a fistfight or Ultimate Fighting match. How could we have anything to go on with respect to any of these folks physical ferocity or that of a possible creationist opponent?

In other words, what kind of a freaking fight do you want? Apples, oranges, and pineapples make a great fruit salad but don't logically compare in merit to each other!
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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/07/2008 :  13:17:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
You're over-thinking it, bngbuck, but it certainly wasn't meant to be #1.

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bngbuck
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Posted - 08/07/2008 :  14:13:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message
Dave.....

Well, for me it takes no undue mental effort at all to select Christopher Hitchens as the meanest, toughest, smartest, most resourceful, unbeatable, brilliant, most combative FIGHTER for atheistic, anti-religious positions.

But for a woo-woo fighter, Randi wins hands-down, of course.

Different strokes from different folks!

Sorry for the over-thinking, but I constantly feel that I should think more and talk less!
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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/07/2008 :  14:23:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Well, this is just supposed to be fun. A sort of Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny for the skeptic set.

Everyone should feel free to add their own ring-side commentary describing how their particular choice whomps the others.

Zombie Sagan, of course, gets stronger with the ingestion of brains, and so after taking out the old and infirm (those happen to have the largest brains, too), the rest would be a cakewalk. Except for Hitchens, whose brain is pickled.

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moakley
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Posted - 08/07/2008 :  16:55:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message
Barbara "The IDiot Crusher" Forrest

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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/08/2008 :  06:49:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Over at BABlog, an appropriate image.

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marfknox
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Posted - 08/08/2008 :  13:15:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit marfknox's Homepage  Send marfknox an AOL message Send marfknox a Private Message
Drunken Monkey, all the way. He was aggressive in the film with Harris, Dawkins, and Dennet, so he already has a feel for them. Plus, he recently subjected himself to torture. And anyone who can drink and smoke that much for that long and still write best selling books and keep respected members of the both Left and Right intrigued with him has got mad skillz, yo.

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Kil
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Posted - 08/08/2008 :  13:57:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
Originally posted by moakley

Barbara "The IDiot Crusher" Forrest
Ahhhh, good one. And how about Eugenie Scott? I suspect if we had thought more about it, Scott would have made the main poll list.


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