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chaloobi
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Posted - 08/14/2008 :  10:07:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send chaloobi a Yahoo! Message Send chaloobi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dude

The thing we should keep in mind here also is gene modification. This is going to be easy to do (as in, home based labs, for very little money) in the near future.

There is the possibility that this type of thing will pose no health risk to athletes (or anyone), and will be virtually undetectable via blood or urine samples.

I'm looking forward to it. If athletes can get their yayas with gene therapy, what will that mean for the rest of us? Cures for just about any genetic disease? Sounds good to me. If the ridiculous money we spend on sports helps move the technology along, I'm all for it.

-Chaloobi

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Dude
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Posted - 08/14/2008 :  10:45:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Chaloobi said:
I'm looking forward to it. If athletes can get their yayas with gene therapy, what will that mean for the rest of us? Cures for just about any genetic disease? Sounds good to me. If the ridiculous money we spend on sports helps move the technology along, I'm all for it.

Possibly. Genetic diseases range from simple single gene problems to multi factorial. The simple ones may well be treatable in the immediate future. The more factors involved, the further away treatments get.

There are two, that I know of, demonstrated examples of genetic enhancement in mice. One involves IGF-1, and the other myostatin supression. Both produce extremely well muscled mice.

Honestly, I'm suprised some human hasn't already taken the risk and shot themselves up with one of the modified AAVs.


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chaloobi
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Posted - 08/14/2008 :  12:43:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send chaloobi a Yahoo! Message Send chaloobi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dude

Chaloobi said:
I'm looking forward to it. If athletes can get their yayas with gene therapy, what will that mean for the rest of us? Cures for just about any genetic disease? Sounds good to me. If the ridiculous money we spend on sports helps move the technology along, I'm all for it.

Possibly. Genetic diseases range from simple single gene problems to multi factorial. The simple ones may well be treatable in the immediate future. The more factors involved, the further away treatments get.

There are two, that I know of, demonstrated examples of genetic enhancement in mice. One involves IGF-1, and the other myostatin supression. Both produce extremely well muscled mice.

Honestly, I'm suprised some human hasn't already taken the risk and shot themselves up with one of the modified AAVs.


I can't imagine what it would be like to be fit without the hassle of fitness training. It feels wrong, lazy somehow. But I think I could get over that feeling with time.

-Chaloobi

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Dude
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Posted - 08/14/2008 :  12:47:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It would give me an hour a day back!

Personally I think the most interesting aspect of this is the restoration/maintenance of skeletal muscle in people over 55. Weakness and inability to perform basic tasks is a huge drain on our resources, keeping people healthy longer, and maybe extending overall lifespan, is worthwhile.


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-- Thomas Jefferson

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chaloobi
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Posted - 08/14/2008 :  19:11:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send chaloobi a Yahoo! Message Send chaloobi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dude

It would give me an hour a day back!

Personally I think the most interesting aspect of this is the restoration/maintenance of skeletal muscle in people over 55. Weakness and inability to perform basic tasks is a huge drain on our resources, keeping people healthy longer, and maybe extending overall lifespan, is worthwhile.


Hell yeah it is.

-Chaloobi

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