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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/11/2011 :  21:54:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by H. Humbert

I also have no natural rhythm to speak off. I can't even drum my fingers along to a song with any consistency.
If it's any consolation, I spent some time years ago writing music software and found that if every note hit with metronomic precision, the result sounded artificial. So I added a feature that would add a random offset to the time each note played. With small offsets (up to about 10 milliseconds) the result sounded much more like it was being played by real people.

Unfortunately for you, larger offsets just made a sonic mess. But the reason I was writing software to make music is that I've got rhythm and other skill problems myself, so I'm right there with you - although I can't resist trying to follow along with the snare drum late in Roundabout whenever I hear it.
I still wonder what, exactly, music sounds like to most people.)
A glorious cacophony.
Awesome!
It's like cooking. Sure, if you really concentrate when you eat a particular dish, you might be able to pick out individual ingredients. A hint of lemon there. A dash of cardamom there. But mostly we just taste all the ingredients together as a single synthesis. I think that's how it is for most people with music, too.
Huh. I hadn't thought about that. I'm not a food person (if I could avoid eating, I would), so this analogy makes a lot of sense to me, thanks.

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Randy
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Posted - 04/11/2011 :  22:39:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by H. Humbert

Tone matrix.




Cool deal. That brought to mind the Yamaha Tenori-on.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SGwDhKTrwU

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H. Humbert
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Posted - 04/11/2011 :  22:40:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by H. Humbert

Tone matrix.
On the thread where I found this, the first joker to reply posted this "song."

252,548,1060,129024,1276,640,252,130560,66300,66180,130692,0,130812,65568,65616,130696

It doesn't have a bad beat, actually.


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H. Humbert
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Posted - 04/11/2011 :  22:45:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Randy
Cool deal. That brought to mind the Yamaha Tenori-on.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SGwDhKTrwU
The top rated comment for that video had me laughing. Cool video. Thanks.


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Kil
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Posted - 04/11/2011 :  22:49:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Humbert:
But mostly we just taste all the ingredients together as a single synthesis. I think that's how it is for most people with music, too.

Oddly, I'm able to do both at the same time. I habitually deconstruct what music that I'm listening to while I'm hearing it, and hear it as a single synthesis simultaneously. Maybe it's because I am a musician, but I can't remember a time when I didn't do that. Good thing too or I would never be able to enjoy what I'm listening to on an emotional level, after deconstructing it. Also, it doesn't matter how many times I've heard a piece, I still do it. Sometimes with the emphasis on other aspects of the music that weren't at first obvious to me.

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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 04/12/2011 :  11:20:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by H. Humbert

Originally posted by Dave W.
(I recall that at a young age, I was surprised to learn that not everyone could easily pick out the guitar, bass, keyboard (etc.) lines in a regular rock song (for example), at will. Most people, it seems, have to concentrate pretty hard to hear the individual instruments.
Oh, that's me for sure. Sometimes I try to pick out one instrument in a song, say for air guitar purposes, and depending on the complexity of the tune it can give me real trouble. I'll lose the thread and start focusing on different instrument entirely, then back again... I also have no natural rhythm to speak off. I can't even drum my fingers along to a song with any consistency.

Chew on this: The Order of the Universe (CD-version) Anderson Bruford Wakeman Howe (of "Yes")

Edited to add: The intro is a glorious explosion of counter-point/s.
I love this song, I will for ever only dream of playing it with my choice of instrument...

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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/12/2011 :  16:51:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like this one:

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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/12/2011 :  16:55:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The scale on the Tone Matrix, for those so inclined, is (from the bottom) A, B, D, E, F# and then it repeats all the way up. It's the D Major Pentatonic Scale, according to one of the commenters.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/12/2011 :  19:31:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This one's cute:

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podcat
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Posted - 04/30/2011 :  22:51:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send podcat a Private Message  Reply with Quote

...I know that he's taken some flack lately, but no one is happier, no one is prouder to put this birth certificate matter to rest than [Donald Trump], and that's because he can finally get back to focusing on the issues that matter, like 'Did we fake the moon landing?', 'What really happened in Roswell?', and 'Where are Biggie and Tupac?'


-US President Barack Obama, speaking about the birth certificate non-issue at the 2011 White House Correspondents' Dinner

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/trump-gets-roasted-president-obama-white-h

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sailingsoul
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Posted - 05/03/2011 :  20:30:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The ultimate talking dog. SS

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Dave W.
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Posted - 05/07/2011 :  23:16:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I heard that Donald Trump was scheduled to drive the pace car at a NASCAR event, but couldn't produce his long-form drivers's license.

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sailingsoul
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Posted - 05/16/2011 :  10:36:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Titled "Amazing" . Definitely unique. SS

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Kil
Evil Skeptic

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13292 Posts

Posted - 05/16/2011 :  12:48:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by sailingsoul

Titled "Amazing" . Definitely unique. SS
It's a living I guess...

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sailingsoul
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Posted - 05/17/2011 :  15:00:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I love magic. SS

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