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Posted - 08/26/2008 :  05:19:51  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah, dear Denyse. She again flaunts her ignorance like longjohns in the summer breeze, on Aunt Sally's clothsline.
In the post below, where U Warwick sociologist Steve Fuller replies to the attempted hatchet job by third-rate Darwin hack Sahotra Sarkar, I think this point made by Fuller is especially critical:
Point, if there is one -- it's open to question -- follows.

Ok, there's some shit going down here. When I open the link, I get some of Dembski's drivel instead of O'leary's drivel. So, I'll go to the Thumb (I was going to include it anyway), which has a more honest take the whole thing -- gimmie a minute..... Here we are. If you must see O'Leary's drivel, for whatever, perverse reason, probably just to get a cheap chuckle, open the first link & scroll down to the Fuller article.

"The gift that keeps on giving: Steve Fuller
By PvM on August 25, 2008 10:39 AM | 15 Comments | 0 TrackBacks
Regular readers on this group may remember Steve Fuller whose contributions as an “expert witness” for the defense in the Kitzmiller law suit were quoted by the plaintiffs as well as the judge to show that ID was not science?

Last year, Steve Fuller released a book titled “Science v. Religion? Intelligent Design and the Problem of Evolution” which was recently reviewed by Sahotra Sarkar in “Notre Dame Philosophical Reviews”. Sarkar's scathing review exposes the vacuity of Fuller's arguments, a vacuity we have come to expect from ‘Intelligent Design'.

Not wanting to be left out, Denyse O'leary, validates the quality of the work by Sarkar by referring to him as a “third-rate Darwin hack”. Furthermore, Denyse, in her continued display of ignorance, responds to Sarkar's observation that Fuller predicts that Darwinism (by which he means the entire framework of evolutionary theory) will be dead by the end of the twenty-first century and will be replaced by something more akin to ID creationism with “What about the Altenberg 16? “.

Indeed, Denyse, what about the Altenberg 16? Contrary to common ID myth, these people are neither displacing Darwinism and certainly are not intent on replacing it with something more akin to ID creationism. But somehow, Denyse, contrary to common journalistic practices, refuses to do the customary research which would led her to the statements released by the “Altenberg 16”. In addition, Massimo Pigliucci explains the reasons behind this workshop.

Now ask yourself, what has ID contributed to our understanding of evolution and evolutionary theory? Nothing, exactly nothing.

Various bloggers, well known to PT readers, have commented on Sarkar's review, such as John Wilkins at “Evolving Thoughts” and John Lynch at “Stranger Fruit.

Sarkar's review is full of funny quotes, I personally like the following

To read the following, damned well told I might add, crack the link & read on.

Denyse, sweetums, who really is the "third-rate hack" here, hmmm?

"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres

"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

Edited by - filthy on 08/26/2008 05:25:40

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Posted - 08/26/2008 :  05:56:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It is a few months now that I started reading uncommonly dense regularly. I don't actually don't know why, as it feels like a mental castigation and after every time reading it, I feel like I've just destroyed a few brain cells. In that sense it seems to have the same effect as a night of binge drinking, only without the fun. Dense O'Leary's posts seem to have the effect of similarly using magic mushrooms, in that the collective stupidity in them makes you hallucinate and want to jump out of buildings in the vain hope that this will end the pain.


`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
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