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Simon
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 Posted - 11/05/2008 : 19:37:14
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So; there is this 'lecture' at the University. The lecture is titled: "The Evolution of Science: How Science is Rooted in Religious Faith"
The lecture will last about 30-40 minutes, with an hour or so for a Q & A afterward.
I am a bit apprehensive but, apparently, the speaker is smart and open minded.
I will probably attend if only so that I have the opportunity if I feel like I need to correct misconception or misrepresentation of the scientific method...
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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/05/2008 : 19:44:58 [Permalink]
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| I think someone gave a similar lecture a few months ago, but I'm unable to find it now. If I remember correctly, the gist was that all scientists were, at one time (think Newton's age) pretty deeply religious. Big whoop. Doesn't mean that current scientific practice (or knowledge) owes much of anything to God (or current theists) even if it should remember those old theist/scientists who got the ball rolling in the right direction. |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
4574 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2008 : 19:46:33 [Permalink]
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What's the speaker's name? It isn't Paul Davies, is it?
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 11/05/2008 : 20:03:03 [Permalink]
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Nah; his name is J.D. Shaw and he apparently is a local, as people from around here have 'debated' with him in the past.
I hope it won't be too retarded as I may not be able to handle that kind of bulls for 30 minutes. Well; if I don't make to chat next week... look for some news about a lynching happening down here in Mississippi. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 11/06/2008 : 01:49:21 [Permalink]
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If there is a Q&A, tell him that science evolved through necessity & curiosity, and religion became attached to it as a parasitic growth in the early days of alchemy. Might be a good idea to be close to the door when you tell him this, as Christian love & tolorance could wash over you, and you'll need a head start.
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The Rat
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 11/07/2008 : 08:20:52 [Permalink]
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| I agree with filthy. Science began before we were even human. When the first ape began seriously observing how a spearhead could be hardened in a fire, or learned better ways of chipping flint through trial and error, it was doing science. There wasn't a test tube in sight, but the method was there. And I'm certain that religion was still far in the future. |
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/07/2008 : 11:19:22 [Permalink]
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Both alchemy and early medicine were critical to the development of the method, they were important steps in the attempt to catalog the nature of nature. The fact that they were both interwoven with religion should be a suprise to no one, all mysteries in the natural world were seen to be beyond knowledge, the realm of the gods. When these barriers cracked the knowledge became most sacred.
Really any benifit science gained from religious curiosity has to be outweighed by the damage done by religious persecution. |
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The Evolution of Science
