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moakley
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 Posted - 11/10/2008 : 06:07:56 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
I'm all for pushing critical thinking. I'm not so big on pushing atheism. If critical thinking became the default method for evaluating claims, you would naturally see more atheists and agnostics.
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Definitely agree with this.
In Charlotte NC we still get people knocking on doors in my neighborhood with copies of Watchtower or Jesus tracts about 3-5 times a year. I usually start out with why do you believe which quickly becomes how do you know. These exchanges usually don't last long and most times that are ended in a pleasant way. Only once was that person visibly angry. I just reminded him that he was the one knocking on my door trying to sell an idea base only on a firm belief. |
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Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous |
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2008 : 12:59:20 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Hawks
| Which out-spoken atheists are currently presented by the media to the public? |
I suppose that Ricky Gervais might not be that big on that side of the Atlantic.
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That was hilarious! Thanks a lot! |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2008 : 14:38:02 [Permalink]
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| The problem appears to be that most people think that reality is boring. |
Well it is; at least, it is more boring that just making up whatever you find more entertaining. It is why I am quite the Science-Fiction/Fantastic aficionado.
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Case in point.
That IS a really cool story, I think. One that could make a great episode of X-files and that I probably will adapt into one of my many; many D&D projects. |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 11/10/2008 : 15:34:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Simon
| The problem appears to be that most people think that reality is boring. |
Well it is; at least, it is more boring that just making up whatever you find more entertaining. It is why I am quite the Science-Fiction/Fantastic aficionado.
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Case in point.
That IS a really cool story, I think. One that could make a great episode of X-files and that I probably will adapt into one of my many; many D&D projects.
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Well, they already turned it into a movie (and a sequel). Of course, being Hollywood, instead of realistically portraying the story as a hoax, it was presented entirely as fantastic-but-plausible science purporting to be be based on an "actual event."
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 11/10/2008 : 16:07:18 [Permalink]
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Well; it makes for a very different movies:
'Real stuff':
Scene 1: People put copper wires on a ship
Scene 2: Ship leaves the dock to have all sorts of wacky adventures through German minefields.
credit rolls.
'Weird stuff':
Scene 1: People makes a ship invisible
Scene 2: Ship go to have all sorts of wacky adventures through times
Scene 3+: All sort; I tell you.
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Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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Religion… or lack thereof
