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the_ignored
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Posted - 11/25/2008 :  09:00:28  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I had to reply to this piece of self-righteous garbage.

Though he does it indirectly. So of course he's not playing at "holier-than thou" at all...

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.

Simon
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Posted - 11/25/2008 :  09:34:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wonder about the facts behind it though. Do Religious people really give more than non-religious (leaving aside the disproportion between the two groups in America).
Another question I'd ask is, what Charity are they giving to? Does that include giving to your own church so that your pastor can buy himself some male prostitutes? I'd be weary of classifying that as giving to Charity...

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996
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Gorgo
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Posted - 11/25/2008 :  10:04:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Where is this study? I think it's been shown that a big chunk of volunteer hours go to things like painting churches. What charities or organizations do these people give to? Do they give to worthless charities like Mother Teresa's group or their pastor's SUV, or do they give to something that makes a difference in people's lives, like the ACLU?

Are they conservative because they're wealthy and can afford to give more money?

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter



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Simon
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Posted - 11/25/2008 :  10:25:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The book is Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism by Arthur Brooks.

Reading here the data is indeed fuzier than the authors make it to be. Most of the difference being, indeed, church goers paying for their pastors haemorrhoid creams and similar gift to the church itself.
The slant was accentuated into a right-left disparity, apparently because the editor considered that it would help the book sell better.

Edited to adjust formatting -- B10

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996
Edited by - Boron10 on 11/25/2008 10:37:44
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