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Kil
Evil Skeptic

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Posted - 01/24/2009 :  19:17:13  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
YES!!!!

Judge Orders Kevin Trudeau to Pay More Than $37 Million for False Claims About Weight-Loss Book

A federal judge has ordered infomercial marketer Kevin Trudeau to pay more than $37 million for violating a 2004 stipulated order by misrepresenting the content of his book, “The Weight Loss Cure ‘They' Don't Want You to Know About.”

In August 2008, Judge Robert W. Gettleman of the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois had ordered Trudeau to pay more than $5 million and banned him, for three years, from producing or publishing infomercials for products in which he has an interest. The ruling confirmed an earlier contempt finding, the second such finding against Trudeau in the past four years.

Urged by both the FTC and Trudeau to reconsider aspects of its August order, on November 4 Judge Gettleman amended the judgment to $37,616,161, the amount consumers paid in response to the deceptive infomercials. The judge also revised the three-year ban to prohibit Trudeau from “disseminating or assisting others in disseminating” any infomercial for any informational publication in which he has an interest. On December 11, the court denied Trudeau's request to reconsider or stay this ruling…


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Why not question something for a change?

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the_ignored
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Posted - 01/24/2009 :  19:19:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If only faith healers would have such judgements rendered against them.


>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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Randy
SFN Regular

USA
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Posted - 01/24/2009 :  20:16:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yippee-tie-one-on! Jeez, I've grown tired of seeing that rat-faced scumbag pitching his drivel. And shame of the TV stations that air his tripe.
Hope this judgment will shut his sleazy ass down.
Good news, good news indeed.

If he'd been spewing religious false claims behind a pulpit, he'd be untouchable.

"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 01/24/2009 :  20:32:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh, man, this is wonderful!


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 01/24/2009 :  21:03:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

YES!!!!


That is exactly what I shouted (perhaps a little too loud) when I read the title of this thread. First Hovind goes to jail, then we elect a smart man, and now this? Well fuck it, I might as well become an optimist.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
Edited by - Ricky on 01/24/2009 21:04:20
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Randy
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Posted - 01/24/2009 :  21:34:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
MAD TV's spoof on Trudeau is on YouTube.



"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/24/2009 :  21:50:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But this guy has almost moved on from conman to cult leader. So many suckers bought his "health" book Natural Cures “They” Don't Want You to Know About that a sizable percentage now think of him as a persecuted messiah standing up to government-protected "Big Pharma," who of course want to silence him and protect their huge profits selling expensive treatments instead of holistic and cheap natural remedies. At least, that's the persona he likes to project. But if you consider the large numbers that the vaccine nuts are now beginning to boast, I wouldn't write this guy off as done yet. There are lots of people with deep, misguided resentments of modern medicine, and many of them are still willing and waiting to trust in this guy again. Hell, this judgment will probably only make him seem more credible in their eyes.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 01/24/2009 21:52:05
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Randy
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USA
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Posted - 01/24/2009 :  21:50:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by the_ignored

If only faith healers would have such judgements rendered against them.




No doubt....Benny Hinn for one. Now, that's a major league scumbag for sure.



"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson
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On fire for Christ
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Norway
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Posted - 01/25/2009 :  01:11:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
wow, that must have been one shitty book

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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 01/25/2009 :  02:49:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

wow, that must have been one shitty book
Indeed. Following its directions instead of getting modern medical care has probably killed hundreds or even thousands. At least Trudeau will probably be spending the rest of his life paying back the $37 million. He's effectively finished, in my opinion, and serves as a frightening example to other greedy quacks.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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Randy
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USA
1990 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2009 :  07:49:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Trudeau has quite a dark history of dragging his dirty laundry along the low road. There's lot's of money to be made off of lazy thinkers.
I was surfing the tube a few weeks ago one weekend when, of course, he shows up with yet again another 30 minute info-mercial. Think he was hyping his diet book. Had four pretty ladies seated around him at the table. (Props -- 'Bobbing Betties' nodding their heads up and down in perpetual agreement). Most of them them splayed cleavage out like there's no tomorrow. One was even listed as a recent Playboy Playmate of the Year. Yeah, as if she's a real expert in the field.
I hope he just disappears for the idiot box.


"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson
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Kil
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USA
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Posted - 01/25/2009 :  09:39:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is what Trudeau has been pushing lately. And as near as I can tell, he is still actively pushing it in infomercial land. I have seen one of them pretty recently.

Kevin Trudeau Now Offering 'Debt Cures'

Master marketer and infomercial maven Kevin Trudeau has a new book out, but he hasn't strayed far from his successful diet
and health book formula, which critics say panders to consumer paranoia.

His new book, coincidentally introduced at the height of the current credit crises, is "Debt Cures
They Don't Want You To Know About."

Consumers who call an 800 number to order a copy are reporting very similar experiences as when they called to order "Natural Cures They Don't Want You To Know About." They're finding it very hard to buy just the book.

"I only wanted to order the book, but the young lady kept telling me about a trial for thirty days, and I kept telling her the book only, please," Cynthia, of Mexia, Texas told ConsumerAffairs.com.

Cynthia said in frustration, she told the operator to just cancel the order. But she says the operator told her the book is coming anyway, and will be in her mailbox in three to five weeks. Cynthia is concerned about what else might show up on her charge card…


Still, the judgment against him is a fair piece of change. And it's a judgment against a book similar to the pile of crap that he is pushing now. So I have to wonder if new suits by the FTC will follow.

It's possible that this guy can be beaten down by continual litigation and judgments against him.

What I would like to see is for Trudeau to be pulled into criminal court and locked up for a very long time...

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/25/2009 :  10:01:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

What I would like to see is for Trudeau to be pulled into criminal court and locked up for a very long time...
Followed shortly by Legal Arguments They Don't Want You to Know About, I'm sure.

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
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Randy
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USA
1990 Posts

Posted - 01/25/2009 :  11:20:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

This is what Trudeau has been pushing lately.....



Yep, that 's right...Debt relief crapola.

I can't believe it -- he's on the idiot box right now with a re-run, surrounded by the Bouncing Betties.
I wouldn't mind seeing FCC going after TV stations airing this con-artist's fraud.

Just surfed to the very next local channel....it's Pat Roberston and CBN fundrasing.

What's the difference?

There always seem to be a endless supply of sheeple to throw money at these slimeballs.

John Stossel Exposes Liar Kevin Trudeau.

"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson
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