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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Or: This is the day the pus-guts have their picnic! Last week we reported on Sheriff Joe's recent photo op with a clutch of neo-Nazis who came out to counter-protest at a march held to raise a stink about Arpaio's racial-profiling ways.
Now Stephen Lemon, the Phoenix New Times reporter who dug much of this up, follows up with an amazing in-depth report on Arpaio and his associations with local white supremacists -- particularly an outfit called United for a Sovereign America.
USA is run by a fellow named J.T. Ready, whom you can see here, in the business suit:
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Check out them beer-bellies; they're worser'n mine!
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
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The Rat
SFN Regular
Canada
1370 Posts |
Posted - 06/21/2009 : 20:30:05 [Permalink]
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| I've heard that Arpaio's jurisdiction, for all its 'get tough' emphasis, has the highest recidivism rate in the U.S. Can anyone confirm or deny? |
Bailey's second law; There is no relationship between the three virtues of intelligence, education, and wisdom.
You fiend! Never have I encountered such corrupt and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the Church? - The Bishop of Bath and Wells, Blackadder II
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
Posted - 06/21/2009 : 20:43:07 [Permalink]
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Have heard that, and that he has a low rate... No idea what the truth is, but I suspect it isn't much different for his county than anywhere else.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
4574 Posts |
Posted - 06/21/2009 : 23:23:09 [Permalink]
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Why are the Nazis holding a National Socialism banner, I thought Nazis were fascists?
Ah, according to Wikipedia, National Socialism was the official name of the Nazi party in Germany, even though most scholars do consider it to be a form of fascism. I was confused for a minute. Of course, Rush Limbaugh will probably still make the claim that this banner proves they are liberals.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9687 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2009 : 03:11:06 [Permalink]
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Socialists aren't necessarily liberal.
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Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2009 : 08:08:23 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
Why are the Nazis holding a National Socialism banner, I thought Nazis were fascists?
Ah, according to Wikipedia, National Socialism was the official name of the Nazi party in Germany, even though most scholars do consider it to be a form of fascism. I was confused for a minute. Of course, Rush Limbaugh will probably still make the claim that this banner proves they are liberals.
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Historically, the Nazi party had tied to the left, although it never was very pronounced (they never allied themselves with the soviet Union or the communist parties or Germany).
But it quickly changed when Hitler arrived and took control, he essentially provided the party with his own personal ideology which was very conservative. Once he got into power, he quickly got rid of the old guard. |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 06/23/2009 : 00:49:22 [Permalink]
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In my mind, I imagine a political spectrum in which the very far right and the very far left loop around and meet one another. The very extremes of leftist or rightist politics are usually nearly identical in essence. They are usually ultra-authoritarian personality cults of a single leader, fueled by paranoia and policed by thuggish enforcers. It's no great feat for extremist groups to change little bits of ideology and to cross the line from technically "left" to technically "right" (or vice versa.) In Germany, Hitler did it with the National Socialists, in the US, "Lyn Marcus" led his Labor Committees to become his little gang of Lyndon LaRouche fascists.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9687 Posts |
Posted - 06/23/2009 : 03:16:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
In my mind, I imagine a political spectrum in which the very far right and the very far left loop around and meet one another. The very extremes of leftist or rightist politics are usually nearly identical in essence.
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I try to think of politics a little less one-dimensional, and more like very many dimensions. There are so many separate aspects that applies. Both socialists and fascists can be pro- or con- environmentalism, for example. Pro- or con- freedom of information... |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 06/23/2009 : 14:35:56 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Originally posted by HalfMooner
In my mind, I imagine a political spectrum in which the very far right and the very far left loop around and meet one another. The very extremes of leftist or rightist politics are usually nearly identical in essence.
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I try to think of politics a little less one-dimensional, and more like very many dimensions. There are so many separate aspects that applies. Both socialists and fascists can be pro- or con- environmentalism, for example. Pro- or con- freedom of information...
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Right. Essentially, every political issue could be considered analogous to another dimension. It's hard, however, to keep a twelve-dimension matrix in one's mind, so I usually think in terms of as few as possible, in two or three political "dimensions." Often the additional issues are minor considerations, anyway, since all political issues are not equal in the sense of depth, width, and height.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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pleco
SFN Addict
USA
2998 Posts |
Posted - 06/23/2009 : 14:48:24 [Permalink]
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I hate Illinois nazis.
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by Filthy
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The Rat
SFN Regular
Canada
1370 Posts |
Posted - 06/24/2009 : 04:49:57 [Permalink]
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Here's someone else who isn't exactly enamoured of the guy:
Overthrow Arpaio
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Bailey's second law; There is no relationship between the three virtues of intelligence, education, and wisdom.
You fiend! Never have I encountered such corrupt and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the Church? - The Bishop of Bath and Wells, Blackadder II
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
 Posted - 06/24/2009 : 06:05:28 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by pleco
I hate Illinois nazis.
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One of the best movies ever!
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
4826 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2009 : 20:19:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Socialists aren't necessarily liberal.
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Dr. Mabuse, Rush Limbaugh is a political commentator and drug addict. (Specifically, Oxycotin) The festering bag of fetid puss spews a few facts and surrounds them with political commentary.
The political commentary portion goes something like this
Socialists = liberal = Communist = Democrats (aka Demodummies, Demoncrats, America-hating feminists)
Now, irrespective of the opinion of certian rotund, draft-dodging, drug addicted commentators, Socialism is a form of governance and is neither conservative or liberal.
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Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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Sherriff Joe and the Scumbags
