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Simon
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USA
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Posted - 08/13/2009 :  17:02:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Interesting find Pleco.

Where is it from? I wish to redirect some vocal right wingers to it when I need to.

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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pleco
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USA
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Posted - 08/14/2009 :  06:49:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Simon

Interesting find Pleco.

Where is it from? I wish to redirect some vocal right wingers to it when I need to.


Which one?

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Simon
SFN Regular

USA
1992 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2009 :  08:16:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The last two graphs.

They were not from the same website?

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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pleco
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USA
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Posted - 08/14/2009 :  08:24:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Simon

The last two graphs.

They were not from the same website?


I don't think so - I found them using google image search on "socialism" (which fwiw will bring a ton of Obama/Godwin images and racist Obama images, so be forewarned because teh stupid it burns) because I had seen them before on other web sites.

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Simon
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USA
1992 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2009 :  12:23:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmmm; The graphs are great but I am not sure I can brave the stoopid. Maybe later, if booze get included in my health care plan.

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996
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The Rat
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Canada
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Posted - 08/14/2009 :  19:30:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm not going to wade through all these posts, so maybe this has already been covered, but here I go.

I live in this evil socialist state called Ontario, a province of the larger commie dictatorship called Canada. Something you Americans are all talking about down there right now is health care, and let me tell you, you have it easy. Up here it's very difficult for me to pay for my own medical care, the government does it. I get sick, go to my doctor, she determines I need an operation, I get it done, and those bureaucratic bastards pay it without even sending me a bill, so I have no way of knowing how many of my tax dollars they are spending on me. They don't even intervene to determine if I actually need the procedure, they have the gall to leave that up to the medical professionals! Imagine that, they don't bother saving my money, nooooo, they just pay it on the doctor's say-so! The reason is obvious - they're too cheap to pay for actuaries and accountants and all the other people who would determine whether I deserve it or not, in fact they only spend a paltry 1% or so on their overhead. In America the health care companies take care of their employees by spending about 30% on their overhead, which no doubt keeps the economy alive instead of a bunch of malingerers.

The end result of this is that we are healthier right up to the point when we die, which takes longer up here than it does in America and therefore drags out the insult even more. Their policies of inexpensive and easily available health care coerces us into seeing doctors with minor problems before they get worse, which prevents them from really showcasing their skills. This complete lack of respect is just what you would expect from godless liberal swine!

Keep fighting socialism Doomar!

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R.Wreck
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USA
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Posted - 08/14/2009 :  20:08:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by The Rat

I'm not going to wade through all these posts, so maybe this has already been covered, but here I go.

I live in this evil socialist state called Ontario, a province of the larger commie dictatorship called Canada. Something you Americans are all talking about down there right now is health care, and let me tell you, you have it easy. Up here it's very difficult for me to pay for my own medical care, the government does it. I get sick, go to my doctor, she determines I need an operation, I get it done, and those bureaucratic bastards pay it without even sending me a bill, so I have no way of knowing how many of my tax dollars they are spending on me. They don't even intervene to determine if I actually need the procedure, they have the gall to leave that up to the medical professionals! Imagine that, they don't bother saving my money, nooooo, they just pay it on the doctor's say-so! The reason is obvious - they're too cheap to pay for actuaries and accountants and all the other people who would determine whether I deserve it or not, in fact they only spend a paltry 1% or so on their overhead. In America the health care companies take care of their employees by spending about 30% on their overhead, which no doubt keeps the economy alive instead of a bunch of malingerers.

The end result of this is that we are healthier right up to the point when we die, which takes longer up here than it does in America and therefore drags out the insult even more. Their policies of inexpensive and easily available health care coerces us into seeing doctors with minor problems before they get worse, which prevents them from really showcasing their skills. This complete lack of respect is just what you would expect from godless liberal swine!

Keep fighting socialism Doomar!


Sounds awful, Rat. Maybe we can chip in and buy Doomar a (one way) bus ticket to the Great White North to save your ass from such a horrible fate.

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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 08/14/2009 :  20:15:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by me

Doomar, we've had this discussion already, and every time I bring up the Achille's Heel of your position, you run away. Try not to do it this time.
Dang, he's run off again.

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Kil
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USA
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Posted - 08/14/2009 :  21:18:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by me

Doomar, we've had this discussion already, and every time I bring up the Achille's Heel of your position, you run away. Try not to do it this time.
Dang, he's run off again.
Well, at least he is true to form.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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HalfMooner
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Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 08/14/2009 :  23:19:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It was just a more cowardly version of the folks who scream lies and slanders to disrupt town hall meetings. But less effective.


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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 08/15/2009 :  01:38:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh, I'd bet yout that Dumbmar has been to a townhall meeting or two recently. Probably shouted to much that his last functioning neuron suffered a little more hypoxic injury.


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-- Thomas Jefferson

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The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9687 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2009 :  11:18:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by The Rat
The end result of this is that we are healthier right up to the point when we die, which takes longer up here than it does in America and therefore drags out the insult even more. Their policies of inexpensive and easily available health care coerces us into seeing doctors with minor problems before they get worse, which prevents them from really showcasing their skills. This complete lack of respect is just what you would expect from godless liberal swine!

Keep fighting socialism Doomar!

Being from Sweden, I share your experience with "health care".


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Simon
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USA
1992 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2009 :  17:22:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Same here.

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996
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podcat
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435 Posts

Posted - 08/16/2009 :  19:30:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send podcat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You know what's insidious about this socialist healthcare? I've seen studies that show Canadians and British live longer than Americans do. That means when all the Americans die off, the socialists will take control. At least let Americans with their health care systems live longer than people in socialist health care states do! /snark

“In a modern...society, everybody has the absolute right to believe whatever they damn well please, but they don't have the same right to be taken seriously”.

-Barry Williams, co-founder, Australian Skeptics
Edited by - podcat on 08/16/2009 19:31:42
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