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the_ignored
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Posted - 08/21/2009 :  00:33:41  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Anyone here wonder what AIG's take on this will be?

The amino acid glycine, a fundamental building block of proteins, has been found in a comet for the first time, bolstering the theory that raw ingredients of life arrived on Earth from outer space, scientists said on Monday.

Microscopic traces of glycine were discovered in a sample of particles retrieved from the tail of comet Wild 2 by the NASA spacecraft Stardust deep in the solar system some 242 million miles (390 million km) from Earth, in January 2004.



>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.

filthy
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Posted - 08/21/2009 :  05:28:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It will probably show up on their weekly News to Note column, on Saturday. This is because it's easier to simply sluff it off as briefly and Godly as possible. I very much doubt they'll do an article on it. That would require a lot of effort to work it into YEC apologetics, and you can do only so much with bullshit.




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HalfMooner
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Posted - 08/21/2009 :  05:49:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthy

It will probably show up on their weekly News to Note column, on Saturday. This is because it's easier to simply sluff it off as briefly and Godly as possible. I very much doubt they'll do an article on it. That would require a lot of effort to work it into YEC apologetics, and you can do only so much with bullshit.
They'd also have to try to find someone on staff who knows what the Hell glycine is. Not easy to do, given the level of retardation at AiG.


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Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 08/21/2009 13:14:03
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filthy
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Posted - 08/21/2009 :  05:58:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Heh, what is really going to be good is their take on this:
After 150m years as a fossil, Belemnotheutis antiquus takes up its penSimon de Bruxelles

The chance of discovering a squid's ink sac preserved well enough to allow reconstitution of the ink was estimated at greater than a billion to one

The fossil record has been rewritten in 150-million-year-old squid ink. The discovery of the perfectly preserved ink sac of a the inch-long cephalopod, a type of squid, has astonished palaeontologists.

The squid came from a site near Christian Malford in Wiltshire that is reknowned for producing extremely well-preserved fossils, but this is believed to the first time squid ink has been reconstituted.

To mark the occasion the scientists used the squid's own ink to draw a picture of it and wrote the specimen's Latin name, Belemnotheutis antiquus. Before it could be used, the pitch-black ink had to be returned to liquid form with a solution of ammonia.

The amazing preservation was the result of what palaeontologists call the Medusa effect - an unusually fast process of fossilisation as the creatures turned to stone so quickly.
The story has all that they love and they just might work it in as part of an article.

I've been waiting for PZ to comment, but nothing yet.




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Simon
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Posted - 08/21/2009 :  08:16:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Let me guess... The presence of the inks is proof that the fossils is actually recent, and hence evilution is a lie and Godditit (which means Jesus is Lord).

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filthy
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Posted - 08/21/2009 :  11:11:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Simon

Let me guess... The presence of the inks is proof that the fossils is actually recent, and hence evilution is a lie and Godditit (which means Jesus is Lord).
Yeah, pretty much. And they'll do a job on radiometric dating methods as well. I rather expect the eminent Dr. Lisle to write it up, as he is an astrophyimus and knows all about that sort of thing.

Chemicals from comets are, of course, far too mundane for the good doctor's notice.




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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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marfknox
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Posted - 08/21/2009 :  13:29:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit marfknox's Homepage  Send marfknox an AOL message Send marfknox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They'll just say something along the lines of that the building blocks are life are not life itself and this proves nothing. And it doesn't really prove anything in-of-itself. And they will neatly ignore that what this discovery does do is provide additional support for current, mainstream scientific theories about the origins of life in the universe.

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Simon
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Posted - 08/21/2009 :  13:36:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That being said, it is not particularly breaking news.
Ever since the Miller experiment we have known that amino-acids were produced quite readily through natural processes.

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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filthy
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Posted - 08/22/2009 :  15:31:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, here it is as predicted, comet, squid and all. It's a little disappointing, really. With a little effort, they could have made it much more interesting.






"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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