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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 11/30/2009 : 07:17:59
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In the past, these fora have taken "magnet therapy" apart like a tinker toy. We've explained as to how it's a scam and severely castigated those grifters who peddle it to the public. Well, things just might be a tad different with this one.
Tiny magnetic discs could kill cancer cells: study
Tiny magnetic discs just a millionth of a metre in diameter could be used to used to kill cancer cells, … .Sun Nov 29, 4:18 pm ET
PARIS (AFP) – Tiny magnetic discs just a millionth of a metre in diameter could be used to used to kill cancer cells, according to a study published on Sunday.
Laboratory tests found the so-called "nanodiscs", around 60 billionths of a metre thick, could be used to disrupt the membranes of cancer cells, causing them to self-destruct.
The discs are made from an iron-nickel alloy, which move when subjected to a magnetic field, damaging the cancer cells, the report published in Nature Materials said.
One of the study's authors, Elena Rozhlova of Argonne National Laboratory in the United States, said subjecting the discs to a low magnetic field for around ten minutes was enough to destroy 90 percent of cancer cells in tests.
In a commentary on the report, Jon Dobson of Keele University in Britain said antibodies could be used to direct the discs towards tumour cells.
"This provides an elegant and rapid technique for targeting tumour destruction without the side effects associated with systemic treatments such as chemotherapy," Dobson wrote.
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This is very interesting, although evidently the study is still in it's infantcy. I wonder what Big Pharma thinks of it....  
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ThorGoLucky
Snuggle Wolf
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Posted - 11/30/2009 : 11:04:36 [Permalink]
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I heard about this on the Skeptics' Guide to The Universe. Clever idea. I hope it works out well.
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Bob Lloyd
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 03/24/2010 : 08:57:28 [Permalink]
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On the surface this looks like an interesting topic related to magnet therapy but in fact it's talking about biomagnetism that has been studied at the molecular level for some time. Magnet therapy such as wearing magnets isn't related to it at all except through the word magnetism. On the macro level, magnets don't affect our tissues in any measurable way and even to have any effect at all, they'd need to have large and pulsing magnetic fields. If you think about the scale of medical scanners, you can see what is needed even to produce a tiny peturbation in the proton in the hydrogen atoms of water in our bodies, enough to produce just a detectable signal which can be processed into an image.
Of course the peddlars of magnetic jewellry will latch onto this sort of story and claim their devices work the same way but they don't and can't. In any case, the above research is about physically moving tiny magnetic disks to damage cancerous tissue. It has to get there first and then be controlled and that's a far cry from putting a magnet on your wrist.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 03/24/2010 : 10:09:43 [Permalink]
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Bob Lloyd:
Of course the peddlars of magnetic jewellry will latch onto this sort of story and claim their devices work the same way but they don't and can't. In any case, the above research is about physically moving tiny magnetic disks to damage cancerous tissue. It has to get there first and then be controlled and that's a far cry from putting a magnet on your wrist. |
Yup. It's almost a guarantee that this research will be cited by the magnet pushers. Same as it ever was. I'll be looking for it. |
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aaron28
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Posted - 04/02/2010 : 16:17:51 [Permalink]
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| Haha It doesn't take a genius to figure out this is a scam. If magnets were the cure to cancer then we would have figured it out a long ago. There's no study that verifies this at all. If you believe in this then I've got a magnet that cures stupidity. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/03/2010 : 05:20:37 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by aaron28
Haha It doesn't take a genius to figure out this is a scam. If magnets were the cure to cancer then we would have figured it out a long ago. There's no study that verifies this at all. If you believe in this then I've got a magnet that cures stupidity.
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Welcome to SFN, aaron28!
What it is, we are not talking "magnet therapy," which we all know is a crock. What is going on here is actually nanotechnology. There are currently several studies underway and the magnetic discs are but one of them. Simply open the link in the OP and all will be made clear.
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
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ThorGoLucky
Snuggle Wolf
USA
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Posted - 04/03/2010 : 12:12:32 [Permalink]
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Filthy, the OP link has gone bad: 404.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 04/03/2010 : 12:59:36 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ThorGoLucky
Filthy, the OP link has gone bad: 404.
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Hmph. It still works for me. Try again and if it still fails, search Yahoo! for health nanotechnology cancer.
Durn computers'll be the death of civilization yet.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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and Crypto-Communist!
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Magnet therapy again?
