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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 01/19/2010 :  16:30:23  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Satan, the Fall, and a Look at Good and Evil

Introduction, by Bodie Hodge
The most common questions asked of Answers in Genesis—next to evolution and millions of years—relate to Satan, the origin of sin and evil, and the Fall of man in general. A complete understanding of this issue requires a careful examination of the Curse in Genesis 3 and other early chapters in Genesis.

Indeed? How does one examine the writings of an ancient peoples? I rather doubt that Mr. Hodge is an archaeologist; he has no access to the original writings, and he's suffering from an iron-bound preconception from the get=go.
In particular, Satan and the origin of evil are hot topics in today’s culture because the world denies the existence of both. For the most part, the church has few biblical resources on the subject to counter the claims raised in today’s culture. This new web series examines the origins of the problems we face today and looks closely at the bad news in Genesis. But you’ll also find hope here: the powerful good news of Jesus Christ and His sacrifice that has conquered sin, Satan, and evil once for all.

So we are going to examine a myth are we? Excellent! And we are going to do it with minimal resources. Hmm.... Not so excellent. I submit that my hypothesis that Pat Robertson is Satan is just as good as the Biblical one. I've heard that he's hiring -- wanna job?

The problems we face today were brought upon us by ourselves and natural disasters that we weren't ready for.
Each week, we’ll answer some of the common questions most of us face—important questions in need of solid examination. To answer them, we will carefully consider what the Bible says, since it is the only completely reliable source of information about Satan, evil in the world, and suffering.

Oh, goody! But I must ask; if the Bible is the only reference in existence, where's your collaboration? How do you know it's reliable?
Here’s a look at some of the topics we’ll address:

Ok, let's see what we've got here.
#9632;Did the serpent originally have legs?

Yep. It had a common ancestor with lizards.
#9632;Should’t the Woman (Eve) have been shocked that a serpent spoke?

I certainly would have been, and I have a little experience with serpents. I suspect an hallucination; possibly opium induced.
#9632;Wasn’t Satan the serpent, not some animal?

Provide empirical evidence for the existence of Satan, otherwise, it was just a snake.
#9632;Why do we get punished for what Adam did?

No other scapegoat available? God likes his scapegoats.
#9632;Is original sin (sin nature) passed through the father’s genetic line?

I do not understand this "Original Sin" concept. What, were A & E passing around a dose of the clap?
#9632;Biblically, could death have existed before sin?

Of course. There was life 3.5 billion years before the Bible was even a delusion in a tribsman's mind.
#9632;Why didn’t Adam and Eve die the instant they ate the fruit?
Perhaps it wasn't poisonous?
#9632;Did Adam and Eve have to sleep before the fall?

As A & E were mammals, we can safely assume that they did.
#9632;If Adam knew of good and evil, because he was programmed with language, then why did God create the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil?

That tree was God's ganja stash, man. You'da been pissed too, had A & E gotten into yours!
#9632;How can God, who is, according to Scripture, perfectly Holy, create anything that can be unholy (or fallen)?

Perfectly holy as compared to what? The mythical Satan? Please...
#9632;Shouldn’t Eve have been a clone of Adam?

Perhaps; genetics left a lot to be desired back in the day. Either way, it's a good story.
#9632;Was Abel eating meat soon after the curse when he wasn’t supposed to be (Genesis 1:29), since he kept the flocks and sacrificed an animal in Genesis 4:2–4?

I would have been. Why let good protein go to waste? If God had wanted some, I'd have been happy to share.
#9632;When did Adam and Eve rebel?

When does anyone? When conditions become oppressive, people revolt.
#9632;How long ago was the Curse?

What curse?
#9632;Wasn’t the Curse and death a good thing to keep the earth from being over populated?

Oh, that curse! It didn't work, did it?
#9632;And more

I'm not sure I can stand any more. This promises to be the most far out, AiG blither yet.

The first installment of this new series lands next week. Get equipped for this skeptical age.

Exactly right! Become a skeptic....




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ThorGoLucky
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Posted - 01/22/2010 :  08:50:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit ThorGoLucky's Homepage Send ThorGoLucky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Answers in Genesis: Because Bronze Age Jewish goat herders had it all figured out.
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 01/23/2010 :  02:18:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by ThorGoLucky

Answers in Genesis: Because Bronze Age Jewish goat herders had it all figured out.

And look how well things went for the Jews after that!

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 01/23/2010 :  02:28:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

Originally posted by ThorGoLucky

Answers in Genesis: Because Bronze Age Jewish goat herders had it all figured out.

And look how well things went for the Jews after that!
Indeed.

I don't know if I'll put this one through the shredder or not. It looks line it'll be a hell of a long series and I suspect we'll all be bored to distraction with it well before it runs it's course.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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the_ignored
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Posted - 02/04/2010 :  22:19:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't think that this post should be in its own thread, since it's dealing with just another article in this series, do you?

Anyway, Happy Jihad's House of Pancakes has his own take on this Hodge article in the series.


>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
Edited by - the_ignored on 02/04/2010 22:24:18
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