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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
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"The White House."
DR. MARGARET FLOWERS: Well, what we learned through this process is there was a lot of control coming from the White House. And they did not- they wanted to pass something. They were putting everything off on passing something in health care reform. And they were concerned that if we let the single payer voice in, or if it was associated in any way with a legislation, that it would hurt their ability to pass that legislation. So they kind of put the kibosh on it.
BILL MOYERS: The White House.
DR. MARGARET FLOWERS: Yes, it really came down from the top. We tried to bring our viewpoint in this summer. We actually brought doctors and nurses in. That was a lot of what I was doing, to meet with staffers and meet with legislators and educate them about health policy, what makes good sense from a health standpoint, not an, you know, special interest standpoint. But when we tried to reach the White House and ask to be included there, we requested meetings with the president on numerous occasions. And they just said no.
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Add more deaths and suffering to Obama's list of first year accomplishments.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 02/06/2010 : 09:10:50 [Permalink]
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It's great to protest for a single payer system. I'm for a single payer system. It's the way to go. But it won't pass congress. You keep faulting the president for stuff that he can't make happen. Look at the lies that were told about him and the public option, right from the floors of both houses of congress, and you start to see what Obama is up against. But go ahead and blame him if it makes you feel better. It's not realistic, but heads must roll I guess...
We would have gotten a single payer system if Obama didn't have to deal with blue-dog democrats, Joe Fuck-Everyone Lieberman and every single republican. But in your eyes, it's all Obama's fault. I don't get it.
Just how much do you think one man can do against so much opposition?
I say keep pushing for it. I am. But to keep blaming Obama for what went down is to ignore all of the other players who worked to guarantee that it wouldn't happen. |
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
5310 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 10:06:41 [Permalink]
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| It is a corrupt system, and Obama is not the only part of it, but he is a part of it. He doesn't work for you or me. |
I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
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Robert Hunter
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
5310 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 12:38:38 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ricky
Originally posted by Gorgo
It is a corrupt system, and Obama is not the only part of it, but he is a part of it. He doesn't work for you or me.
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It sounds like you're proposing that some person or group should change the system, but from outside the system itself. I believe the only option that leaves is revolution. Or am I missing something?
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Well, the shell of a democratic system exists. Revolution only means change. |
I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26020 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 13:24:01 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Gorgo
Well, the shell of a democratic system exists. Revolution only means change. |
What changes do you propose? How can criminals be prevented from holding public office? |
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
5310 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 14:42:17 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by Gorgo
Well, the shell of a democratic system exists. Revolution only means change. |
What changes do you propose? How can criminals be prevented from holding public office?
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What do you propose? |
I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26020 Posts |
Posted - 02/06/2010 : 15:25:19 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Gorgo
Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by Gorgo
Well, the shell of a democratic system exists. Revolution only means change. |
What changes do you propose? How can criminals be prevented from holding public office? |
What do you propose? |
You seem to be defending change. What changes do you propose? |
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
5310 Posts |
Posted - 02/07/2010 : 11:45:49 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ricky
Originally posted by Gorgo
It is a corrupt system, and Obama is not the only part of it, but he is a part of it. He doesn't work for you or me.
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It sounds like you're proposing that some person or group should change the system, but from outside the system itself. I believe the only option that leaves is revolution. Or am I missing something?
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All we know about it is that this gentleman says it will not be televised. |
I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
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Who killed health care reform?
