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filthy
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Posted - 03/14/2010 :  04:25:06  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, here's a pretty good reason:
Okay, a politician like Harry Reid is a polarizing figure. He makes some people very angry. Fine.

But when anyone — be it Harry Reid or one of his critics across the aisle — faces a random, personal tragedy, the American public can expect media commentators to remove their ideological boxing gloves and give that person a break.

Right?

Well, apparently not.

Two days after Reid's wife Landra was sent to the hospital with a broken neck and broken back after a car accident in which their daughter was also hurt, conservative blogger Dan Riehl took the golden opportunity of Reid's grief to say something so morally abhorrent and politically reprehensible.

Aside from them being self-centered, bottom-feeding troglodytes, there is a vicious streak running through them that manifests itself every time one of of the them open his/her mouth or turns on a computer. The Nazis can barely compete, can they Mr. Godwin?

But of course, the Nazi's were conservative, too, so there you have it.




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The Rat
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Posted - 03/14/2010 :  05:19:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If that wretched piece of shit caught fire I wouldn't bother pissing on him.

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filthy
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 03/14/2010 :  13:43:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why hate conservatives, part #2

Well, here's a very good reason; the fascist vermin in Texas are trying to turn our children into the same intellectual carrion as themselves.

By Andrew McLemore
Sunday, March 14th, 2010 -- 11:33 am

Change will impact students across country

For the next ten years, millions of students in Texas and across the country will read history textbooks suggesting that the actions of witch-hunt instigator Joseph McCarthy were justified. They will read about religious icon John Calvin instead of Thomas Jefferson. They will read a description of the US government that includes the words "constitutional republic" but not the word "democratic."

These are just a few of the changes an ultra right-wing Texas Education Board has tentatively approved for the state's history curriculum. There is one more stage for approval, but the board voted yes to the changes in a 10-5 vote. That's 10 Republicans voting yes and 5 Democrats voting no, making the chances for reevaluation almost negligible.

Once fully approved, it will be a decade before the board reviews the curriculum again.

"I am very distressed," said Mary Helen Berlanga, D-Corpus Christi, who sponsored an unsuccessful amendment to mention that Tejanos were among the fallen heroes of the Alamo.

Most of the board's members make no secret of their intent to instill their own religious and political ideologies into public schools, and the consequences of their activism have far-reaching consequences.



Whaddya think; Thomas Jefferson replaced by the drunken, senatorial Nazi; Joe McCarthy? The criminal-in-chief of the Iran-Contra treason
and destroyer of the nation's economy lauded as a hero? Science replaced by delusion? It looks like that's what were going to get; a generation of dunces cast in the image of G.W. Bush.

If this bullshit actually flies. I think the school boards in the rest of the country might have something to say about it. It could turn into a very interesting confrontation and a little slice of Gehenna for the text book publishers.




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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 03/14/2010 :  15:34:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's all pretty disgusting stuff, Filthy.

I don't hate "conservatives." But there are damned few of them left in this country.

To the extent that real conservatives exist, I certainly oppose their positions, but respect them as part of the process. They provide a healthy political balance against a (potential, but presently near-nonexistent) runaway left.

But what we have posing as conservatives this last decade or two are simply not real conservatives. NeoConservatives have disastrously distorted the entire political landscape (including liberalism) by throwing out the individual rights ideals of Barry Goldwater and others, substituting an agenda of pure short-term economic opportunism and blatant pandering to religious extremists. NeoConservatism is not a political philosophy so much as a disparate gang of crooks, bigots, liars, used car salesman and semi-literate preachers who came together briefly to seize power and divide the spoils.

Unlike the earlier "PaleonCons," the NeoCons have shown no hesitation at all to use the power of the state to imprison, spy upon, or brainwash their fellow citizens. They should not be allowed to use the term "conservative" without being called for it.

I know now that Barry Goldwater, the bogeyman of my young political days, would have been so much better a President than was Reagan or Bush II, because he was a relatively honest man, even though I would never agree with him on very much.

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Edited by - HalfMooner on 03/14/2010 16:28:00
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Dude
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Posted - 03/14/2010 :  17:54:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If Barry Goldwater were alive and in politics today he would be a liberal.


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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 03/14/2010 :  18:17:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dude

If Barry Goldwater were alive and in politics today he would be a liberal.
And be labeled as a "Socialist-Nazi," probably.

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Machi4velli
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Posted - 03/14/2010 :  21:29:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
“Do not associate my name with anything you do. You are extremists, and you’ve hurt the Republican party much more than the Democrats have.”
— Barry Goldwater, speaking of unprincipled establishment “Republicans”

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 03/14/2010 :  21:38:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Machi4velli

“Do not associate my name with anything you do. You are extremists, and you’ve hurt the Republican party much more than the Democrats have.”
— Barry Goldwater, speaking of unprincipled establishment “Republicans”

http://www.rlc.org/about/what-people-are-saying/
That's laying it on the line, eh? Words I once never expected to say: Good for Goldwater!

Good find, Mach! Of course you'd be interested in such a quote, since I judge that you're a member of the PaleoCon kind, a respectable (if somewhat curmudgeonly) species.

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Machi4velli
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Posted - 03/14/2010 :  22:23:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Do I need to find the quote where he said every conservative has a duty to kick Jerry Falwell in the ass?

Originally posted by HalfMooner
Of course you'd be interested in such a quote, since I judge that you're a member of the PaleoCon kind, a respectable (if somewhat curmudgeonly) species.

Maybe, I'm not sure what characterizes a PaleoCon, but I don't see myself as anywhere close to a Republican or liberal in the American sense of the word. I don't really like "conservative" if it implies one who wants to conserve things for the sake of conserving them.

"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
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Edited by - Machi4velli on 03/15/2010 00:58:27
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Dude
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Posted - 03/14/2010 :  23:35:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The old conservative philosophy was centered around the idea that changes to the way things are run should be carefully considered and extremely well thought out before they were implemented. (yes, that is probably an oversimplification)

Now days "conservative" means do anything to enhance the wealth of your corporate sponsor. And "anything" really means anything. Start wars, manipulate poor and ignorant people with no regard for their well being, and create your own independent sets of facts for any issue that you can't win on the actual facts. You all know the drill.

They (old conservatives) were also all about the expansion of individual rights. Things like the patriot act, domestic spying, rendition, torture, and all that... would have had the Goldwaters plotting armed insurrection.


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-- Thomas Jefferson

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Dave W.
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Posted - 03/15/2010 :  07:50:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Machi4velli

Do I need to find the quote where he said every conservative has a duty to kick Jerry Falwell in the ass?
Here it is, in Time Magazine, 1981/07/20:
No one championed [Sandra Day] O'Connor more forcefully than her longtime Arizona friend, Senator Barry. Goldwater, whose early urging had helped her gain White House support. Noting the opposition to O'Connor from the far-right groups, Goldwater declared: "I don't like getting kicked around by people who call themselves conservatives on a nonconservative matter. It is a question of who is best for the court. If there is going to be a fight in the Senate, you are going to find 'Old Goldy' fighting like hell." Goldwater attacked directly a claim by the Rev. Jerry Falwell, head of the fundamentalist Moral Majority, that all "good Christians" should be concerned about the appointment. Scoffed Old Goldy: "Every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass."

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filthy
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Posted - 03/15/2010 :  08:59:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by Machi4velli

Do I need to find the quote where he said every conservative has a duty to kick Jerry Falwell in the ass?
Here it is, in Time Magazine, 1981/07/20:
No one championed [Sandra Day] O'Connor more forcefully than her longtime Arizona friend, Senator Barry. Goldwater, whose early urging had helped her gain White House support. Noting the opposition to O'Connor from the far-right groups, Goldwater declared: "I don't like getting kicked around by people who call themselves conservatives on a nonconservative matter. It is a question of who is best for the court. If there is going to be a fight in the Senate, you are going to find 'Old Goldy' fighting like hell." Goldwater attacked directly a claim by the Rev. Jerry Falwell, head of the fundamentalist Moral Majority, that all "good Christians" should be concerned about the appointment. Scoffed Old Goldy: "Every good Christian ought to kick Falwell right in the ass."


I recall reading that, or something similar, a long time ago.

Falwell is dead and I'm not a Christian, but I'd still like to kick his ass. And the conservative nitwit who replaced O'Conner on the bench, his ass as well. Just look at what the conservative half of the Court is today! They're turning into a bunch of freaking teabaggers.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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