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moakley
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 Posted - 04/20/2010 : 17:38:07 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
For the atheists out there:
Let's say that somehow, somewhen, somebody manages to convince the courts that the argument that the First Amendment offers freedom of religion but not freedom from religion has merit, and Congress passes a law mandating that everyone must observe some sort of not-freshly-made-up theistic religion.
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Wow. I can't imagine a congress passing such a law and then giving us a choice.
How about Seicho-no-Ie. I kind of like the idea of "Infinite Life, Wisdom and Abundance" |
Life is good
Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous |
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
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Posted - 04/21/2010 : 03:07:24 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Let's say that somehow, somewhen, somebody manages to convince the courts that the argument that the First Amendment offers freedom of religion but not freedom from religion has merit, and Congress passes a law mandating that everyone must observe some sort of not-freshly-made-up theistic religion. |
This was the case in Sweden until 1951. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 04/21/2010 : 07:55:38 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Hawks
Dave W, if I can't have a freshly-made-up theistic religion, then I hardly have freedom of religion, do I? |
Ha! Good catch. |
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Why not question something for a change?
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
 Posted - 04/21/2010 : 08:10:05 [Permalink]
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I think.... I think I would become a Catholic and work to destroy the Church from the inside.
River Otter, from whose home I've just returned, says she would be an Animist.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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astropin
SFN Regular
USA
970 Posts |
Posted - 04/21/2010 : 14:12:20 [Permalink]
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| If I go with Islam/Muslim can I have the 72 virgins without martyring myself..........and before I die? |
I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.
You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.
Atheism:
The result of an unbiased and rational search for the truth.
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
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 Posted - 04/25/2010 : 06:45:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
I think.... I think I would become a Catholic and work to destroy the Church from the inside. |
Methinks somebody beat you to it.... |
"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
-- Terry Jones |
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Machi4velli
SFN Regular
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Posted - 04/25/2010 : 13:32:56 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Starman
Originally posted by filthy
I think.... I think I would become a Catholic and work to destroy the Church from the inside. |
Methinks somebody beat you to it....
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You've discovered the homosexual plot against the Vatican... |
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking
"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
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the_ignored
SFN Addict
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Posted - 04/25/2010 : 13:48:37 [Permalink]
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If I were ever forced to take a religion, then I'd take The True Way and human laws be damned.
| Yuuzhan Vong religion was centered on the worship of all life, though certain actions have led many to question this. |
| It was also one of the most violent, intolerant, and doctrinally uncompromising religions ever recorded. |
Sound familiar?
More information can be found here.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Chippewa
SFN Regular
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Posted - 04/25/2010 : 13:54:45 [Permalink]
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A religion that has a tradition rather than a made up religion - well then I think I'd go for one of those South Pacific Cargo Cults.
Yeah - bring me some sacred "Cargo" - food, smokes, beer, wide screen TV, 300SL Mercedes gullwing, etc., etc...amen. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult
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Diversity, independence, innovation and imagination are progressive concepts ultimately alien to the conservative mind.
"TAX AND SPEND" IS GOOD! (TAX: Wealthy corporations who won't go poor even after taxes. SPEND: On public works programs, education, the environment, improvements.) |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2010 : 14:59:59 [Permalink]
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A friend on mine once told me about the Frisbeetarians. The Frisbeetarians believe that when they die, their souls go up on the roof and never come down.
*shrug* It's as good as any....
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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moakley
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 04/25/2010 : 17:38:46 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
A friend on mine once told me about the Frisbeetarians. The Frisbeetarians believe that when they die, their souls go up on the roof and never come down.
*shrug* It's as good as any....
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That's interesting. I kind of thought that should that happen that would be the time when this ole world starts getting me down. |
Life is good
Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous |
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 04/25/2010 : 19:35:15 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Starman
Originally posted by Dave W.
Let's say that somehow, somewhen, somebody manages to convince the courts that the argument that the First Amendment offers freedom of religion but not freedom from religion has merit, and Congress passes a law mandating that everyone must observe some sort of not-freshly-made-up theistic religion. |
This was the case in Sweden until 1951.
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Sad.
But there is a way around it.
You could all become Wiccan. Specifically solitare Wiccans. (practice alone in the comfort of your own home. Great for atheists who could claim to be solitare Wiccans but just blow off the whole ritual stuff.)
Not a "new" religion as it has existed since the 1890's. |
Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
Brother Cutlass of Reasoned Discussion |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 04/25/2010 : 21:18:03 [Permalink]
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| Valiant Dancer, that sounds like a really interesting alternative. |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
Collateralmurder. |
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tw101356
Skeptic Friend
USA
333 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2010 : 21:34:36 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by moakley
Originally posted by filthy
A friend on mine once told me about the Frisbeetarians. The Frisbeetarians believe that when they die, their souls go up on the roof and never come down.
*shrug* It's as good as any....
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That's interesting. I kind of thought that should that happen that would be the time when this ole world starts getting me down.
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I see what you did there, moakley, (and I heartily applaud it).
Hmmm...would depend on the day of the week. Convert to Islam at sunset on Thursday, then to Judaism at sunset on Friday, and then to Christianity in time to take Sunday off too. The remainder of the week I would probably be Roman civil religion, as long as there were no local harumspexes (harumspeci?) checking the daily omens at dawn, I'd have to do that myself, so the chance that any given weekday would end up being a nefas* day would be pretty high.
*Nefas day - the morning omens are so bad that everyone should just stay home in bed and hope they survive. No business is to be conducted. Basically a randomly generated friday the 13th. |
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AnthroGeek
New Member
USA
38 Posts |
Posted - 04/25/2010 : 22:04:40 [Permalink]
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| Taoism for sure.Fireworks, lion dances, doesn't seem to ban pork, beer or sex, and plenty of gods to chose from. As a bonus it has secret kung fu powers. |
A series of fun one-liners about various pseudoscientific claims and, even better, a concise description of the scientific method - Ken Feder on Skeptic Friends Network from "Frauds, Myths and Mysteries" |
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Mandated theism
