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The Rat
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Posted - 06/22/2010 :  06:55:11  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As skeptics we are supposed to avoid dogmatism, but there are times when it can be acceptable. Instance: the people who design low-flow toilets are idiots, plain and simple. They can't even spell the word 'hydrodynamics'. Water pressure is entirely dependent upon the depth of the water column, so if you're reducing the flow you should find a way of increasing the depth. In Britain they were doing this years ago by placing the toilet tank up high instead of just above the bowl, and you pulled down on a chain to release the water. I hope they still use this system otherwise it means another country is getting scientifically dimmer. And what brain-dead excuse for a vertebrate designs a tank that releases more water than the bowl will hold?! It means that if there is a blockage there is no possible way that you cannot have an overflow. Stupidity, that's the only reason for such a design. I will not look for nor accept any other explanation. Dogmatic? Yes. But I am right, so I can afford to be.

As you can probably guess I've just spent a frustrating time clearing a blockage and cleaning the resultant mess. I have a 14 year-old son who eats prodigiously and then gives birth to rugby balls. I am NOT happy. Those designers will feel my wrath. To quote Douglas Adams, they'll be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes.

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filthy
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Posted - 06/22/2010 :  07:19:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote


The Mighty Ferguson: BAH-WHOOOSH!!!




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Edited by - filthy on 06/22/2010 07:53:54
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Kil
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Posted - 06/22/2010 :  07:39:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by The Rat

As skeptics we are supposed to avoid dogmatism, but there are times when it can be acceptable. Instance: the people who design low-flow toilets are idiots, plain and simple. They can't even spell the word 'hydrodynamics'. Water pressure is entirely dependent upon the depth of the water column, so if you're reducing the flow you should find a way of increasing the depth. In Britain they were doing this years ago by placing the toilet tank up high instead of just above the bowl, and you pulled down on a chain to release the water. I hope they still use this system otherwise it means another country is getting scientifically dimmer. And what brain-dead excuse for a vertebrate designs a tank that releases more water than the bowl will hold?! It means that if there is a blockage there is no possible way that you cannot have an overflow. Stupidity, that's the only reason for such a design. I will not look for nor accept any other explanation. Dogmatic? Yes. But I am right, so I can afford to be.

As you can probably guess I've just spent a frustrating time clearing a blockage and cleaning the resultant mess. I have a 14 year-old son who eats prodigiously and then gives birth to rugby balls. I am NOT happy. Those designers will feel my wrath. To quote Douglas Adams, they'll be the first ones against the wall when the revolution comes.
No shit!!!

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Why not question something for a change?

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The Rat
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Canada
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Posted - 06/22/2010 :  07:46:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

No shit!!!


No, too much shit!


Bailey's second law; There is no relationship between the three virtues of intelligence, education, and wisdom.

You fiend! Never have I encountered such corrupt and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the Church? - The Bishop of Bath and Wells, Blackadder II

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Hawks
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Posted - 06/22/2010 :  09:49:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Hawks's Homepage Send Hawks a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In my opinion, rugby balls aren't balls.

METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 06/22/2010 :  11:37:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ball n. : a round or roundish body or mass: as a : a spherical or ovoid body used in a game or sport.

Sorry it qualifies, and it's easier than saying "semi-spheroid inflated sporting device".

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Hawks
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Posted - 06/22/2010 :  16:48:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Hawks's Homepage Send Hawks a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf

Ball n. : a round or roundish body or mass: as a : a spherical or ovoid body used in a game or sport.
What can I say? I don't like that definition...

METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL
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Starman
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Posted - 06/23/2010 :  04:18:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Hawks

What can I say? I don't like that definition...
Be dogmatic! Reject it!
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 06/23/2010 :  13:46:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Indeed!

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Ebone4rock
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Posted - 06/23/2010 :  14:25:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Ebone4rock a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've tried being dogmatic but my labrador can out-run me, out-jump me,out-catch me, and out-swim me. The only thing I am better at is throwing.

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ThorGoLucky
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USA
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Posted - 06/23/2010 :  20:33:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit ThorGoLucky's Homepage Send ThorGoLucky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like the adjustable toilets, set for #1 or #2. I'd like one with several flows, from light tinkle to Fat Bastard floater.
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R.Wreck
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USA
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Posted - 06/27/2010 :  12:51:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Rat:

Sounds like you need a pressure- assisted toilet.

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Fripp
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Posted - 06/28/2010 :  11:22:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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