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the_ignored
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Posted - 06/25/2010 :  20:44:13  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hat tip to Ed Brayton for this.

Gallups is not alone with the sentiment America could be under a curse from God.

"I believe this is evidence that when you turn your back on Israel, especially when you've been a supporter, you're gonna see judgments come from God," said Hal Lindsey, author of "The Late Great Planet Earth."

"It's finally reaching the point where God is removing His protection from us," he said. "I believe we back away from being a friend to Israel at our peril. We need to come back to be a supporter of one who is so important in God's plan."


Regarding the oil spill specifically, Lindsey said, "I think that this disaster is just one of many disasters. Our country is falling apart economically. The current government is overturning our constitutional republic, turning it into a socialist country. That's about as big a curse as you can get. We just have one catastrophe after another and then we have this big wake-up call in the Gulf."


So, who's one of the "experts" who came up with that shit? Hal Lindsey.






>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.

Edited by - the_ignored on 06/25/2010 20:47:49

The Rat
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Posted - 06/26/2010 :  05:27:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think I'll go and quietly puke now.

Bailey's second law; There is no relationship between the three virtues of intelligence, education, and wisdom.

You fiend! Never have I encountered such corrupt and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the Church? - The Bishop of Bath and Wells, Blackadder II

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Machi4velli
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Posted - 06/26/2010 :  15:24:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jesus was a socialist. (Funny argument to make to religious right people.)

"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking

"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
-Albert Camus
Edited by - Machi4velli on 06/26/2010 15:24:59
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 06/27/2010 :  18:47:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by the_ignored

Hat tip to Ed Brayton for this.

Gallups is not alone with the sentiment America could be under a curse from God.

"I believe this is evidence that when you turn your back on Israel, especially when you've been a supporter, you're gonna see judgments come from God," said Hal Lindsey, author of "The Late Great Planet Earth."

"It's finally reaching the point where God is removing His protection from us," he said. "I believe we back away from being a friend to Israel at our peril. We need to come back to be a supporter of one who is so important in God's plan."


Regarding the oil spill specifically, Lindsey said, "I think that this disaster is just one of many disasters. Our country is falling apart economically. The current government is overturning our constitutional republic, turning it into a socialist country. That's about as big a curse as you can get. We just have one catastrophe after another and then we have this big wake-up call in the Gulf."


So, who's one of the "experts" who came up with that shit? Hal Lindsey.








Go onto any odd story about a natural occurrence. (One that strikes me in particular is the 5 point quake near Ottawa, Canada) On Yahoo, they have turned on comments. Invariably, some Bible thumping twit makes some long ass post about the rapture and end times.

God, please save me from your ardent followers.

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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 06/28/2010 :  22:06:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How Hal Lindsey continues to make money is beyond me. I used to listen to his radio show-- "Week in Review"-- all the time. The thrust of it used to be that a) Hal knows more than a little bit about Biblical prophecy, and b) you'd better book one of his super expensive tours to the Holy Land now because pretty soon, the Anti-Christ is going to be here.

Oh. I guess that's how he makes money.

But still. His book, The Late Great Planet Earth, has sold in the tens of millions. If I recall correctly, in it he argued that Bible prophecies called for some sort of massive land war involving the USSR and maybe China over the state of Israel all to take place in the late 80's. It's way past then. The war hasn't happened. There's no USSR. Why do prophecy-lovers take this guy seriously?
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the_ignored
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Posted - 06/28/2010 :  22:51:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I guess you know that Gov. Jindal's getting into the act.



Now, with coastal wildlife trapped and dying in sludge, with the human beings of the Gulf Coast facing the loss of culture, livelihoods, and our beautiful wetlands — courtesy of BP — Gov. Jindal felt called to set aside June 27 as an official day of prayer for divine assistance in “persevering” through this mess — and to post the call to prayer on his official state website. In 2008, his constituents couldn’t even get him to acknowledge the letters he got from scientists and citizens who asked him to veto the LSEA. But now, with the Gulf of Mexico hemorrhaging oil, he was only too happy to sign an official proclamation declaring a “Statewide Day of Prayer for Perseverance Through Oil Spill Crisis” [pdf]. The irony of this is as thick as the oil in the Gulf.


Guess who likes that?


>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
Edited by - the_ignored on 06/28/2010 23:27:43
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Dr. Mabuse
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Sweden
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Posted - 06/29/2010 :  11:04:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"I believe this is evidence that when you turn your back on Israel, especially when you've been a supporter, you're gonna see judgments come from God," said Hal Lindsey, author of "The Late Great Planet Earth."

So...
If you have always hated Israel, you're OK with God in the respect that you were never a supporter who could be punished for changing position in the first place?

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Valiant Dancer
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USA
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Posted - 06/29/2010 :  20:24:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OK, I think I've seen the funniest retort from someone while responding to a end-times thumper.

Thumper: Follow Jesus.

Comic: I tried following Jesus once. I got arrested for stalking.

That there is funny.

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

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R.Wreck
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USA
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Posted - 06/30/2010 :  06:10:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A kook in the local paper says that god did it because of abortion. I, of course, disagreed.

The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley

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Robb
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Posted - 07/01/2010 :  06:55:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Robb a Private Message  Reply with Quote
When these religious people talk about a reason for a disaster is because of some sin, it is never a sin they themselves think they struggle with. Didn't Pat Robertson claim Katrina happened because of sexual sin in New Orleans? Why wouldn't God destroy New Orleans because of lies or not honoring your parents? Those are sins as well. But these sins they won't admit are as bad because they struggle with them. Ultimately no religious person knows if there is a purpose for a particular disaster other than natural or man made causes.

Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. - George Washington
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