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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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 Posted - 09/03/2010 : 07:32:52
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Looks like Mr.Comfort has been broadening the scope of his scientific expertise. His knowledge of physics is now very nearly as impressive as is his knowledge of evolutionary biology.
Ray Comfort says Prof. Stephen Hawking is "unscientific"
In The Time's extracts of Stephen Hawking's new book, The Grand Design, the physicist writes,
"Because there is a law such as gravity, the universe can and will create itself from nothing. Spontaneous creation is the reason there is something rather than nothing, why the universe exists, why we exist."
"It is not necessary to invoke God to light the blue touch paper and set the universe going."
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But wait a second. Did Hawking forget to run this by Ray first? BIG mistake!!!
"It is embarrassingly unscientific to speak of anything creating itself from nothing," says Comfort. "Common sense says that if something possessed the ability to create itself from nothing, then that something wasn't nothing, it was something -- a very intelligent creative power of some sort."
"Hawking has violated the unspoken rules of atheism," the evangelist adds. "He isn't supposed to use words like 'create' or even 'made.' They necessitate a Creator and a Maker. Neither are you supposed to let out that the essence of atheism is to believe that nothing created everything, because it's unthinking. It confirms the title of another book I wrote, called, You Can Lead an Atheist to Evidence, but You Can't Make Him Think. Nor should an atheist speak of gravity as being a 'law,' because that also denotes the axiom of a Law-giver. Laws don't happen by themselves. But look at how careless the professor was, with his, 'The Big Bang was the result of the inevitable laws of physics and did not need God to spark the creation of the Universe.'" |
Is there anything that Ray Comfort doesn't know? Well, you know. Aside from how banana's were purposely bred for human consumption?
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Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
 Posted - 09/03/2010 : 07:42:55 [Permalink]
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Ray Comfort.... I can't type anything else because I'm laughing to hard so focus.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
1383 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2010 : 09:49:40 [Permalink]
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| With friends like these... |
METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL
It's a small, off-duty czechoslovakian traffic warden! |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2010 : 13:47:57 [Permalink]
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Atheism has rules? I didn't know that. If rules exist, then it is just like a religion, is it not? Fuck that; henceforth, I am an unatheist!
Paraphrasing: "The banana fits the human hand perfectly. So does the human penis." ~~ filthy the Unatheist in an Amazon.com review of one of the wanker's books.
Ray has one saving grace: he's funnier than a rubber crutch in the polio ward. Would that all creationists were like him!
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
4574 Posts |
Posted - 09/03/2010 : 14:42:42 [Permalink]
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
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Machi4velli
SFN Regular
USA
854 Posts |
Posted - 09/10/2010 : 20:03:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
| "It is embarrassingly unscientific to speak of anything creating itself from nothing," says Comfort. "Common sense says that if something possessed the ability to create itself from nothing, then that something wasn't nothing, it was something -- a very intelligent creative power of some sort." |
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"[Hume’s critics] found a more convenient method of being defiant without any insight, viz., the appeal to common sense… But this common sense must be shown by well-considered and reasonable thoughts, not by appealing to it as an oracle when no rational justification can be advanced… Seen in a clear light, it is but an appeal to the opinion of the multitude."
-Immanuel Kant
Thought we solved this one a while ago... |
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking
"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9687 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2010 : 01:47:36 [Permalink]
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| Common sense is an oxymoron if there ever was one. Possibly second to military intelligence. |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2010 : 03:29:32 [Permalink]
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Now that's real science!
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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podcat
Skeptic Friend
435 Posts |
Posted - 09/11/2010 : 10:28:38 [Permalink]
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“In a modern...society, everybody has the absolute right to believe whatever they damn well please, but they don't have the same right to be taken seriously”.
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sailingsoul
SFN Addict
2830 Posts |
Posted - 09/12/2010 : 15:41:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by podcat
Don't you think this is a case of the pot calling the kettle black?
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Oh Yeah! Here's what I see going on. Theist won't because they can't, explain where their God came from and they are unable to prove the existence of which ever God they believe in. They say, "something cannot come from nothing" but say nothing about where their God came from or how some "God" created everything form nothing. Their God created everything from nothing but its a God and Hwakins isn't Other than that their "God" can do anything thing just by thinking of it. They can't prove a single thing, of what the believe. It's all based on "Faith". With their supreme ignorance right out the gate, they've got room to laugh? There isn't a single christian that is able to believe 100% of their own delusion. No religious doctrine is without contradictions. That's why there are so many different christian doctrines and so many sects of every religion that exists. Theists can't even agree on which "flavor" of dogma is true reality or correct because none of them are. Groping in the dark and coming up with fantastical explanations is what Theists bring to the table. Hawkins is at least trying to understand this mystery we all find ourselves living, theist base their beliefs on writing from other who had very little understanding of the simplest things like the causes of floods earthquakes Theist got absolutely nothing to laugh at, except themselves. How do you scare a theist? Practice "Science"! They're terrified of what it is doing to their delusions. Every year, month and week discoveries are made to our knowledge of the universe.
I view Theists like vampires who are unable to exist in the light of knowledge and understanding. They can only live by trying to suck the life out of others not like themselves and are unable to see what they really are, even with a mirror. SS |
There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS |
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Comfort calls Hawking "unscientific"
