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Dr. Mabuse
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 Posted - 10/26/2010 : 07:23:01
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BP and big European polluters contribute money to political candidates in US Midterm. Politicians who deny Man Made Climate Change, and work against taking action.
| These included incumbents who have been embraced by the Tea Party such as Jim DeMint, a Republican from South Carolina, and the notorious climate change denier James Inhofe, a Republican from Oklahoma. |
Source: Care2.com
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Kil
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Posted - 10/26/2010 : 08:00:54 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
BP and big European polluters contribute money to political candidates in US Midterm. Politicians who deny Man Made Climate Change, and work against taking action.
| These included incumbents who have been embraced by the Tea Party such as Jim DeMint, a Republican from South Carolina, and the notorious climate change denier James Inhofe, a Republican from Oklahoma. |
Source: Care2.com
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Yep. That and a whole lot of money funding mostly Republican candidates and we aren't entitled to know the source of the money. It's a disgrace.
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 10/26/2010 : 08:07:14 [Permalink]
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That's obscene. It's hard for me to conceive that foreign polluters are allowed to pour money int the election funds of America's anti-science Radical Right. But that just shows how poorly I've been following US events. After all, American corporations are now treated as though they were "persons" with First Amendment rights, so why not foreign conglomerates as well? Why not foreign governments, too? Now US politicians boldly sell themselves on a global auction block.
Whatever these greedy, god-haunted, reactionary politicians believe, I do not think for a moment that those who run these corporations doubt AGW for a moment. They are playing for time, simply saving billions by delaying for as long as possible the expensive changes they will eventually have to make to their businesses. This is the foulest kind of self-interested cynicism and corruption. Perhaps that cynicism could be cured by requiring all such corporate people to live and remain at all times within a meter of the present sea level. |
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podcat
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 10/26/2010 : 12:10:29 [Permalink]
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What the world needs are more environment friendly crazies with sniper rifles who can teach these corporations that they have stepped over the line.
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 10/26/2010 : 12:16:25 [Permalink]
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What the Tea-baggers don't realize is that <whisper>Muslims</whisper> could be secretly funding their favourite candidate.
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Just in case anyone missed it:
This post was supposed to be sarcastic.
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podcat
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Posted - 10/26/2010 : 20:28:05 [Permalink]
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| Sorry, Doc, I don't agree. I don't think violence is the solution, no matter which side brings it. |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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 Posted - 10/27/2010 : 07:25:58 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by podcat
Sorry, Doc, I don't agree. I don't think violence is the solution, no matter which side brings it.
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What other way is there? Big Business has hijacked your government and your Democracy. The little man is all but powerless against it, when it employs both media and law-enforcement to do its bidding. Hell, I wouldn't even call it a democracy when half of the population are too apathetic to even get their ass to the polling station.
Working within the system obviously isn't working anymore, and shit-heads like the Tea Baggers can get away with beating up people.
My wish to see someone do something is an expression of my frustration, because things are heading toward the darkest pits of hell and not enough people are reacting to rectify it.
The thing is, someone likened the world with a circus, and USA is the elephant. The elephant has been crapping all over the centre circle for quite a while now, everybody notices and it stinks to high heaven. But as long as the elephant decides to stay in the middle, the rest of us can't do anything about except hope that another elephant maybe called China or India will step in and push USA out.
USA hasn't been a guiding light for democracy for a long while, and shit exposed like the article in the beginning, and Wiki Leaks about American soldiers murdering civilians, just reinforce my belief that the world will be better off if USA fades away sooner rather than later. Embracing a Creationist science curricula in American schools isn't an option either. It takes too long to breed a science-illiterate population large and illiterate enough for the economy to collapse; we need at least two generations for that.
Obama was a glimmer of hope, but it looks to me now that he was only bullshitting. The investigation into illegal wiretaps on citizens were blocked, he's not applying enough pressure on Israel to stop them committing crimes against humanity, American soldiers are still murdering civilians in the Middle East, and Guantanamo base is still open.
I'm disappointed to say the least. And frustrated. And I'm digressing. |
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podcat
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Posted - 10/27/2010 : 21:34:58 [Permalink]
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| I understand the frustration. Believe me, I and others in the US are just as frustrated. I think we have to promote reason, rather than advocating that people solve their problems through violence. To me, that makes them as morally wrong as the people they disagree with. |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
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Posted - 10/28/2010 : 11:58:46 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by podcat
To me, that makes them as morally wrong as the people they disagree with.
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That's why I suggested crazies could take care of the not-as-moral-or-ethical actions, while rational people can continue pushing the boulder up-hill.
Something drastic is needed to restore at least some semblance of balance.
By Scandinavian standards, Obama is still right of center politically speaking, and repubs are far out to sea. Tea Partiers are fringe that might as well belong in an asylum for the insane.
By European standards, Obama is probably considered just left of center, which only prove how skewed the American political spectrum is.
| Believe me, I and others in the US are just as frustrated. I think we have to promote reason, rather than advocating that people solve their problems through violence. |
With Big Money corporations having such a tight grasp of the balls of the political and judicial institutions (including the supreme court fallating corporations) how do you propose to do this promotion? Given slowness of change toward rationality among the uneducated population, and the forces working against rationality, when do you think you can claim victory (as in 50+% accepting evolution, or the "Citizen United vs FEC" reversed)? 4 more years? A decade? A century?
Things are currently moving in the wrong direction, and it looks to me like it's gaining momentum. And it scares the shit out of me.
But now at least, there's a possibility for the EU spending a few tens of billions Euros on political campaigning on "center" politicians in USA. I'd love to see that and watch Scalia, Ailito, and the other criminals on the bench crying foul...
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Big Business funding politicians against Climate
