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filthy
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 Posted - 01/08/2011 : 08:40:04
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Oh, this is rich! Seems that an ad company submitted a commercial that showed a priest dishing out snack chips as the eucharist and having his flock wash them down with soda pop. Needless to say, it went over like an anchor and (speculation) likely has caused spontainous blood pressure explosions throughout the entire Catholic League.
Step aside Tim Tebow. The evangelical quarterback's pro-family ad was last year's Super Bowl ad dust up. In 2011, the hot spot is an entry in the annual Pepsi-owned Doritos Crash the Super Bowl ad contest that will never air for being over-the-top offensive to people who take Communion seriously. It plays the bread and wine for snack food.
But the body and blood of Christ are no joke to those who believe they are in Communion with their God when they accept the Eucharist and the wine during Mass.
Hence the uproar among some believers when they saw one of the 5,000+ entries in the annual competition for a slot in the Super Bowl ad line up.
Feed the Flock begins with a priest (maybe Catholic, maybe Anglican or Episcopal) at his desk surrounded by bills for the parish, which clearly needs more income in the collection plate (why else show the stack of bills?).
Since it's his job to offer spiritual food to the flock, he takes it to another level (the pits, I'd say). The video shows the faithful lining up for Communion and getting Doritos (in two flavors, no less) instead of the wafer (which Catholics believe is the body of Christ and others see as symbolic of Christ). And, you guessed it, the wine, considered by Catholics to be the blood of Christ, is dished out as Pepsi MAX.
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Well, from a secular viewpoint, it's better than the usual crackers and plonk.
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sailingsoul
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 Posted - 01/08/2011 : 12:49:59 [Permalink]
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| I was raised as a Catholic and that is NOT a takeoff of any Catholic happening I've ever partook in. During Mass, only the Priest drinks the wine. From what I have witnessed, Catholic Mass attendees never drink anything during Mass. Wine, Pepsi or anything else. They do consume a wafer (swallowed whole, never chewed), near the end of the service, which is claimed to have been changed into the body of Christ. Being given wine is not a Catholic activity I've ever been apart of or seen done. I see no reason why Catholics would be offended by a altered depiction of what is clearly not what they do. Those saying "Catholics are offended" are not themselves Catholic. Evangelicans might be offened by the ad but I wouldn't know about that, not ever been one. SS |
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podcat
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 01/08/2011 : 21:29:54 [Permalink]
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I thought Glenn Beck had it right....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFAm4N50Ufg |
“In a modern...society, everybody has the absolute right to believe whatever they damn well please, but they don't have the same right to be taken seriously”.
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 01/09/2011 : 07:47:44 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by sailingsoul
I was raised as a Catholic and that is NOT a takeoff of any Catholic happening I've ever partook in. During Mass, only the Priest drinks the wine. |
The priest gets to choose which type of mass to celebrate, whether under "one species" (wafer alone) or "both species" (wafer and wine). On page 71, in sections 286 and 287, of this PDF, you'll find the instructions for passing out Communion wine. |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 01/09/2011 : 14:04:47 [Permalink]
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Yeah, when I grew up Catholic, wine wasn't typically given out with communion. It was mostly reserved for "special" occasions like Christmas or Easter masses, I think mostly because it was a pain in the ass to distribute. When I was very young we attended Eastern Orthodox masses in which cubes of bread were soaked in wine and tipped into your mouth by the priest by means of a small spoon. So you got your bread and wine all in one shot.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/09/2011 : 14:41:43 [Permalink]
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| My grandparents were Episcopalians. They'd take me to bread-and-wine masses when I was 12 or so. Because I was underage for alcohol, the priest would rub sand in my hair instead of giving me either bread or wine. It was weird. Maybe it was a New Jersey thing, ensuring that children would bathe at least once a week. |
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/09/2011 : 15:01:30 [Permalink]
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Sand in your hair? That's really weird. Where did he get the sand? Did he just have a pocket full of the stuff? I've never heard of such a thing. You should try to find the origin and extent of that practice. Are you sure it wasn't palm ash rubbed on the forehead or something like that?
I forgot to add that in Catholic communion the priest dilutes the wine with water, so the stuff is pretty watered down (more so as the size of the crowd demands). As children we were allowed to take the wine so long as our parents approved, and I think almost all did. In Catholic school, the sacrament of Communion was taken in the 2nd grade and confirmation taken in 8th grade. The Eastern Orthodox church my family originally attended did things totally different. Confirmation took place during baptism and I don't remember ever not being allowed to take communion with wine, even before I was school-aged.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/09/2011 : 15:59:24 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
Sand in your hair? That's really weird. Where did he get the sand? Did he just have a pocket full of the stuff? I've never heard of such a thing. You should try to find the origin and extent of that practice. |
Now that I've become frustrated with trying to Google it, I'm beginning to wonder if my grandparents were making it up. I'm sure of what they said, though - that it was sand in my hair - because every Sunday they dragged me to church I was given a bath as soon as we got back to their house because of the sand that was supposedly then in my hair.| Are you sure it wasn't palm ash rubbed on the forehead or something like that? |
Positive. The priest only ever put his hand on top of my head, on my hair. |
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sailingsoul
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Posted - 01/09/2011 : 17:38:46 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
The priest gets to choose which type of mass to celebrate, whether under "one species" (wafer alone) or "both species" (wafer and wine). On page 71, in sections 286 and 287, of this PDF, you'll find the instructions for passing out Communion wine.
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Interesting, thanks. SS |
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Dr. Mabuse
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 Posted - 01/10/2011 : 08:14:50 [Permalink]
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Since the communion wine is substantiated into the blood of Christ and therefore shouldn't contain any alcohol, neither priests, parents, nor law-enforcement should have any problems letting children drink it.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/10/2011 : 09:16:10 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Since the communion wine is substantiated into the blood of Christ and therefore shouldn't contain any alcohol, neither priests, parents, nor law-enforcement should have any problems letting children drink it. |
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 01/10/2011 : 10:36:31 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by H. Humbert
Sand in your hair? That's really weird. Where did he get the sand? Did he just have a pocket full of the stuff? I've never heard of such a thing. You should try to find the origin and extent of that practice. |
Now that I've become frustrated with trying to Google it, I'm beginning to wonder if my grandparents were making it up. I'm sure of what they said, though - that it was sand in my hair - because every Sunday they dragged me to church I was given a bath as soon as we got back to their house because of the sand that was supposedly then in my hair.| Are you sure it wasn't palm ash rubbed on the forehead or something like that? |
Positive. The priest only ever put his hand on top of my head, on my hair.
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Ok, then I think it just sounds like a simple laying on of hands blessing. I doubt sand ever came into it. Maybe Sundays after church were just bath time and maybe your grandparents said something about sand in your hair, but you were the one who wrongly made the connection with the priest who touched your head. In other words, maybe the two things were only related in your mind. But I'm obviously speculating. It's just a weird thing for a priest to do.
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Ebone4rock
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Posted - 01/10/2011 : 11:13:42 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
Yeah, when I grew up Catholic, wine wasn't typically given out with communion. It was mostly reserved for "special" occasions like Christmas or Easter masses, I think mostly because it was a pain in the ass to distribute. When I was very young we attended Eastern Orthodox masses in which cubes of bread were soaked in wine and tipped into your mouth by the priest by means of a small spoon. So you got your bread and wine all in one shot.
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Hmmm....I've been to a number of Catholic masses and each one I attended everyone drank the wine out of the cup. Maybe it's a regional thing? Maybe it's because when I have attended the masses it was always for a baptism, a first communion, a wedding, or a funeral. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/10/2011 : 15:37:05 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
Ok, then I think it just sounds like a simple laying on of hands blessing. I doubt sand ever came into it. Maybe Sundays after church were just bath time and maybe your grandparents said something about sand in your hair, but you were the one who wrongly made the connection with the priest who touched your head. In other words, maybe the two things were only related in your mind. But I'm obviously speculating. It's just a weird thing for a priest to do. |
The "sand in your hair" thing came up multiple times (and got to be an "I don't want to go to church 'cause he'll put sand in my hair again" sort of thing). It may be weird, but then transubstantiation is weird. And these were Episcopalians... in New Jersey.  |
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