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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
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Posted - 01/14/2011 :  17:38:02  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is a hoot!!!

MEDIA SKEPTICS: A POPCORN GALLERY

Scientism. It’s a relatively new kind of quasi-religious mania that’s associated with a notion of evidence-based medicine that has very little to do with real scientific studies and everything to do with a pop-culture obsession. It denies the existence of an evidence base it doesn’t like, and creates a mythology of an evidence base where one doesn’t really exist. Sound fascinating?

In the past number of years many of us have encountered websites and posts from people who belligerently and rabidly attack any form of medicine that doesn’t revolve around drugs and surgery, ie. conventional medicine. The word “quackery” gets thrown around a lot. So does “placebo”. And “evidence-based,” as if homeopathy wasn’t, right from the start.

Verbal attacks are predictably aimed at homeopathy, acupuncture /Traditional Chinese Medicine, chiropractic, osteopathy, naturopathy and any other form of holistic or complementary medicine. The term “alternative” medicine was actually coined by the drug industry so that they could play semantics with the notion that if something was an alternative to medicine is wasn’t medicine at all…

Suffice it to say that there really are people who spend a lot of time and energy attacking homeopathy from the sidelines of the Internet and in print. They call themselves “skeptics”. Who are they and how did they originate?

First, we should make the distinction between a bona fide “sceptic” (who philosophically is an ethically-minded individual who reserves opinion on an issue until they feel reasonably satisfied that certain criteria have been fulfilled in order for them to accept a proposition), and a “media skeptic” who actually has an agenda.

The skeptical movement is an offshoot of the Communist Party. (Really: see the top two links below.) Its top organizers were hired by pharmaceutical company and medical industry representatives to recruit malcontents in bars to spread hate propaganda against non-conventional medical systems. One of the first such skeptic groups referred to itself as “Skeptics in the Pub”. Not surprisingly, their rants against Homeopathy sound like the drunken cacophony of soccer hooligans.

Bolding is mine...

To me, an article like this just demonstrates that skeptics are making some headway. What she is really saying is that some people are listning to skeptics. And she is not at all happy about it...

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

Genetic Literacy Project

Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2011 :  19:15:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

The skeptical movement is an offshoot of the Communist Party. (Really: see the top two links below.) Its top organizers were hired by pharmaceutical company and medical industry representatives to recruit malcontents in bars to spread hate propaganda against non-conventional medical systems. One of the first such skeptic groups referred to itself as “Skeptics in the Pub”. Not surprisingly, their rants against Homeopathy sound like the drunken cacophony of soccer hooligans. [Emphasis mine.]
So... I guess I missed my paycheck from Pfizer? Or were the checks just going out to you, @tomic, and Dave?
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 01/14/2011 :  23:42:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
... The skeptical movement is an offshoot of the Communist Party. (Really: see the top two links below.) Its top organizers were hired by pharmaceutical company and medical industry representatives . . .
The Homeopaths have us dead to rights. Us sneaky commie-capitalist bastards!

Now, where else did we hear this conflation of contradictions used as an attack upon one's enemies?

1. Creationists accusing evolutionary scientists of being the puppets of a materialist "religious dogma."

2. Antisemites saying "the Jews" are simultaneously both Communists and international bankers.

Hmmm. That last is a closer fit. The rumor must be true, then, that Homeopathy is an off-shoot of the Nazi Party. Really.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie

USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2011 :  19:22:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OK,

The entire idea of paying off Communists seems a little, well, odd.

How does that work when you are supposed to turn everything over to the collective?

Why does this remind me of the Degenerate Art shows of the Third Reich? Making Jewish, insane, and criminal mean the same thing through mindless repetition.

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

Brother Cutlass of Reasoned Discussion
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 01/19/2011 :  20:43:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

OK,

The entire idea of paying off Communists seems a little, well, odd.

How does that work when you are supposed to turn everything over to the collective?

Why does this remind me of the Degenerate Art shows of the Third Reich? Making Jewish, insane, and criminal mean the same thing through mindless repetition.

Because that is exactly what it is.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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alienist
Skeptic Friend

USA
210 Posts

Posted - 01/20/2011 :  19:59:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send alienist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
As a doctor, I get really angry with these "alternative" practitioners. But then I remember I am not hurting for business and my patients are getting better results. So I imagine these people are attacking others to make up for their own inadequacy.

Speaking of Pfizer...

Subject: New Drugs from Pfizer

Pfizer is at it again!
With Viagra being such a great medical success for increasing men’s sexual prowess, Pfizer is bringing forth a whole line of drugs oriented towards improving the performance of men in today’s society.

Here are a few of the new ones:
DIRECTRA - a dose of this drug given to men before leaving on car trips caused 72 percent of them to stop and ask directions when they got lost, compared to a control group of 0.2 percent.
PROJECTRA - Men given this experimental new drug were far more likely to actually finish a household repair project before starting a new one.
COMPLIMENTRA - In clinical trials, 82 percent of middle-aged men administered this drug noticed that their wives had a new hairstyle. Currently being tested to see which effects extend to noticing new clothing.
BUYAGRA - Married and otherwise attached men reported a sudden urge to buy their sweeties expensive jewelry and gifts after taking this drug for only two days. Still to be seen: whether the drug can be continued for a period longer than your favorite store’s return limit.
NEGA-VIAGRA - Has the exact opposite effect of Viagra. Currently undergoing clinical trials on sitting US presidents.
NEGA-SPORTAGRA - This drug had the strange effect of making men want to turn off televised sports and actually converse with other family members.
FLATULAGRA - This complex drug converts men’s noxious intestinal gases back into food solids. Special bonus: Dosage can be doubled for long car rides.
FLYAGRA - This drug has been showing great promise in treating men with O. F. D. (Open Fly Disorder). Especially useful for men on Viagra.
PRYAGRA - About to fail its clinical trial, this drug gave men in the test group an irresistible urge to dig into the personal affairs of other people. Note: Apparent overdose turned three test subjects into “special prosecutors.”
LIAGRA - This drug causes men to be less than truthful when being asked about their sexual affairs. Will be available in Regular, Grand Jury and Presidential Strength versions.

The only normal people are the ones you don't know very well! - Joe Ancis
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sailingsoul
SFN Addict

2830 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2011 :  12:20:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by alienist

As a doctor, I get really angry with these "alternative" practitioners. But then I remember I am not hurting for business and my patients are getting better results. So I imagine these people are attacking others to make up for their own inadequacy.

Speaking of Pfizer...

Subject: New Drugs from Pfizer

Pfizer is at it again!
With Viagra being such a great medical success for increasing men’s sexual prowess, Pfizer is bringing forth a whole line of drugs oriented towards improving the performance of men in today’s society.

Here are a few of the new ones:
DIRECTRA - a dose of this drug given to men before leaving on car trips caused 72 percent of them to stop and ask directions when they got lost, compared to a control group of 0.2 percent.
PROJECTRA - Men given this experimental new drug were far more likely to actually finish a household repair project before starting a new one.
COMPLIMENTRA - In clinical trials, 82 percent of middle-aged men administered this drug noticed that their wives had a new hairstyle. Currently being tested to see which effects extend to noticing new clothing.
BUYAGRA - Married and otherwise attached men reported a sudden urge to buy their sweeties expensive jewelry and gifts after taking this drug for only two days. Still to be seen: whether the drug can be continued for a period longer than your favorite store’s return limit.
NEGA-VIAGRA - Has the exact opposite effect of Viagra. Currently undergoing clinical trials on sitting US presidents.
NEGA-SPORTAGRA - This drug had the strange effect of making men want to turn off televised sports and actually converse with other family members.
FLATULAGRA - This complex drug converts men’s noxious intestinal gases back into food solids. Special bonus: Dosage can be doubled for long car rides.
FLYAGRA - This drug has been showing great promise in treating men with O. F. D. (Open Fly Disorder). Especially useful for men on Viagra.
PRYAGRA - About to fail its clinical trial, this drug gave men in the test group an irresistible urge to dig into the personal affairs of other people. Note: Apparent overdose turned three test subjects into “special prosecutors.”
LIAGRA - This drug causes men to be less than truthful when being asked about their sexual affairs. Will be available in Regular, Grand Jury and Presidential Strength versions.

Welcome to the forum alienist. Funny, which bring up the all time best replacement for Viagra. No prescription necessary, it's called "a-twenty-year-old". SS

There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS
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