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the_ignored
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Posted - 01/18/2011 :  15:19:35  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here's a site for doing that.

Meanwhile, here's an opinion piece that PZ Myers found that slams Ham's "estimates" of the park's feasability.



To attract 1.6 million visitors, the park ó again, absent significant tourist facilities ó would have to attract four times as many visitors as the nearby Creation Museum.

The record elsewhere is not encouraging. Bible Park USA, whose two proposals to build biblical-story parks in Tennessee were rejected, is exploring Southern Kentucky sites, also with state tax incentives. Holy Land USA, which opened in Virginia in 1972, closed in 2009. Holy Land Experience in Orlando, Fla., struggled with declining attendance and rising costs and debt until it was sold to the nation's largest religious broadcaster. It gets a little over 200,000 visitors a year.

Indeed, the saturated theme-park market and the depressed economy make times tough for any new park. The most recent large amusement park, the Hard Rock Park in Myrtle Beach, S.C., closed five months after opening in 2008 and failed again the following year under new management, leaving investors, contractors and vendors in the lurch.



>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.

HalfMooner
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Posted - 02/01/2011 :  06:10:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I really think Ken Ham has finally met the agent of his financial destruction, and it's a product of his own greed, ego and arrogance. I think he'll go down with his Ark.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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Ebone4rock
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USA
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Posted - 02/01/2011 :  06:17:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Ebone4rock a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Shit, we've had Noah' Ark here in Wisconsin for a long time. It kicks ass!
They must do pretty good business because they have been around for a few decades.

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filthy
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Posted - 02/01/2011 :  07:06:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ah yes, the Ark Snark. I must remind that AiG is going with their usual modus opporandi: extort the money out of their following. Ham won't be out a dime as long as the suckers keep on pumping as they have in the past.

But I agree; they are suffering the curse of over-optimism. I do not think this foolishness, even at itís most successful, will be the wet dream Ham thinks it will be.

Me, Iím waiting for his corporate partners to get cold feet. That would sink the Ark project as surely as the shipworms sank Colombus.




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the_ignored
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Posted - 02/01/2011 :  20:52:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Speaking of Ken Ham.


>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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filthy
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Posted - 02/02/2011 :  04:13:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by the_ignored

Speaking of Ken Ham.


Heh, not bad. I've been calling him a pigfucker for years and it's good to see the conformation.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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sailingsoul
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Posted - 02/15/2011 :  12:55:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I found this about the on going developments with the Ark Theme Park. The Creation Museum has in the past fired employees because of their religious beliefs. Will they get tax breaks and get to continue to discriminate in hiring? SS

There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS
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filthy
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Posted - 02/15/2011 :  13:52:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by sailingsoul

I found this about the on going developments with the Ark Theme Park. The Creation Museum has in the past fired employees because of their religious beliefs. Will they get tax breaks and get to continue to discriminate in hiring? SS

Well, that's interesting. We know for sure that this magnificent slops bucket will be staffed and run by AiG's faithfu, sock puppets -- that goes without saying. What I'm wondering about is the construction crews. Are they too, the carpenters, cat-skinners, plumbers, painters, laborers and the rest going have to sign the ridiculous pledge as well? I rather doubt it, but who knows; they might. If only to get a gig in these lean times, they might. Hell, I would. Lying to AiG would not bother me in the least -- I'd consider it some paybacks for the lies they've told us.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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Dave W.
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Posted - 12/22/2011 :  09:25:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Ark is in trouble:
Their groundbreaking was pushed back from spring, to summer, to fall, and the most recent media report was to next spring. Meanwhile, their fundraising goal of $24.5 million appears to have ground to a halt at just over $4 million, where it has been for quite a while. They had reached the $3 million mark all the way back in May.
H/T: PZ.

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moakley
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Posted - 12/22/2011 :  10:58:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

The Ark is in trouble:
Their groundbreaking was pushed back from spring, to summer, to fall, and the most recent media report was to next spring. Meanwhile, their fundraising goal of $24.5 million appears to have ground to a halt at just over $4 million, where it has been for quite a while. They had reached the $3 million mark all the way back in May.
H/T: PZ.
Ham keeps the $4 million??

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Randy
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Posted - 12/22/2011 :  17:38:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This got me to thinking a split second or two of poor little Ken Hovind wearing prison issue. (boo-fucking hoo!)
Just to bring a smile to your faces, here's a little refresher from Wiki on Hovind getting hung out to dry.

Edit to add: Reading of Ken Hovind getting busted back then was news that was almost too good to be true! I was about as tickled as I was back when the PTL Club went down the drain back in the spring of '87. Man, that was was just way, way over the top fun.

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"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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Edited by - Randy on 12/22/2011 17:48:59
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sailingsoul
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Posted - 12/22/2011 :  22:56:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

The Ark is in trouble:
Their groundbreaking was pushed back from spring, to summer, to fall, and the most recent media report was to next spring. Meanwhile, their fundraising goal of $24.5 million appears to have ground to a halt at just over $4 million, where it has been for quite a while. They had reached the $3 million mark all the way back in May.
H/T: PZ.


Oh Darn and it all looked so nice on paper too.
I can't imagine why they're having problems. Noah got it done with way less resources and technology than Conniving Kenny has to assist him. Noah had to actually collect all them pterodactyls, Brontosauruses and Tyrannosauruses . Not just enclose some solenoids and actuators underneath some painted silicone Dino-skin. Maybe he should start with the "Noah Canoe" and work his way up?


There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS
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jamalrapper
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Posted - 02/27/2012 :  16:49:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send jamalrapper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Blame it on the poor reading and math skills. It has nothing to do with marketability. There was a time when Americans could sell anything. Pet rocks, girl scout cookies and contraceptives.

It ain't the same today. America ranks 32 in math...those fucking politicians never even got that far. You cannot replicate the Ark...You need people who can count first.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/23/2014 :  18:06:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So the Ark Park has been granted $18 million in tax breaks, but will attempt an end-run around equal employment laws.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/07/2014 :  18:50:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
State notices Ark Park’s hiring practices:
...Kentucky authorities have noticed the apparently deceptive hiring practices of AIG and Ark Encounter, and sent a letter informing the proprietors of the Ark Park,
Therefore we are not prepared to move forward with consideration of the application for final approval [of a tax incentive] without the assurance of Ark Encounter LLC that it will not discriminate in any way on the basis of religion in hiring for the project and will revise its [job] postings accordingly.


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Kil
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Posted - 10/07/2014 :  19:34:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

State notices Ark Park’s hiring practices:
...Kentucky authorities have noticed the apparently deceptive hiring practices of AIG and Ark Encounter, and sent a letter informing the proprietors of the Ark Park,
Therefore we are not prepared to move forward with consideration of the application for final approval [of a tax incentive] without the assurance of Ark Encounter LLC that it will not discriminate in any way on the basis of religion in hiring for the project and will revise its [job] postings accordingly.


Figures.


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