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Machi4velli
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 Posted - 05/02/2011 : 16:25:43 [Permalink]
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OFFC, math isn't a skill either!
... damn sexist 
With regard to froydnslip's point, do we have demographics on non-skeptic forums? If we had a similar imbalance of users on forums across topics, maybe we can isolate the medium (forums) as the cause of the imbalance rather than the topic (skepticism). |
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
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froydnslp
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Posted - 05/02/2011 : 20:35:53 [Permalink]
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OK...I have done a quick survey of demographics on my "non skeptic forum" The Baby Squeesus. There are actually more females who would be considered registered disciples. Just over 50% are women. However, when one looks at those who actively worship the Baby Squeesus; those who post comments, those who post comments regularly...those are men. Women might hit "like" or make a random comment here and there, usually right after they join or if they know the Baby Squeesus in a more personal manner. But men seem to frequently comment and check in.
I hope this helps your exploration. |
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alienist
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 05/03/2011 : 11:42:37 [Permalink]
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| That's interesting. I wonder why more men post comments. If is the website is just about infants, women may be more tired in general because having to breastfeed during the night. If I have time, I will try to see if there are any studies on internet use among men and women. Although, 4 years after having my son, I am still tired |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 05/03/2011 : 11:56:20 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by alienist
That's interesting. I wonder why more men post comments. If is the website is just about infants, women may be more tired in general because having to breastfeed during the night. If I have time, I will try to see if there are any studies on internet use among men and women. Although, 4 years after having my son, I am still tired
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The site is defiantly not about infants. It's a facebook page hosted by a cat deity. |
Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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Yequan
Spammer
USA
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Posted - 05/24/2011 : 02:27:41 [Permalink]
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Hidden by the threat of power and strength to convince? There are many ways men have used to manipulate and control women - and others - since the Pleistocene era?
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Deleted spam. Kil |
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 05/24/2011 : 18:25:42 [Permalink]
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Well spoken, Yequan! I have thought so since the beginning!
But what does Alienist think? Perhaps she has been abducted?
By the natives?
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 05/24/2011 : 19:43:43 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bngbuck
Well spoken, Yequan! I have thought so since the beginning!
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You came in too late to see the cleverly not-so-subtly-disguised links to stores selling items men buy for their women in order to manipulate them. Stuff like jewelry and high-fashion hand bags. |
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LizW
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 08/02/2011 : 06:51:14 [Permalink]
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Hey all.
Haven't looked in on y'all for awhile so I decided to wander around a bit and this topic caught my attention. Hope you don't mind a little resurrection on a dead thread but I have a theory about this.
Just from personal observation and some anecdotal evidence, I believe women participate less for the simple reason that we have less time to invest in leisure pursuits in general.
Our time gets eaten up by personal cosmetic upkeep (working out, hair, makeup...), home upkeep such as cleaning and cooking, and child care. Yes it is a new century and this should be an archaic idea but the reality is ... this is still the norm.
It takes a large time investment to maintain a presence in any web community and women just have far less time to invest in it.
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Bill scott
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Posted - 08/02/2011 : 07:41:04 [Permalink]
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| Yeah but now that Opera and General Hospital are off the air that should free up an extra two hours in their day. |
"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-
"In the end as skeptics we must realize that there is no real knowledge, there is only what is most reasonable to believe." -Coelacanth-
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Bill scott
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Posted - 08/02/2011 : 08:12:35 [Permalink]
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| Originally posted by LizW |
| Just from personal observation and some anecdotal evidence, I believe women participate less for the simple reason that we have less time to invest in leisure pursuits in general. |
Sure we can all point to anecdotal situations where we know a couple and the man is much busier than the women or the women is much busier than the man but to make a blanket statement that women are busier than men is laughable. Many men work 40-60 hours per week away from the home under very busy and stressfull situations only to come home after a hard days work to have the wife toss the kids in their lap as soon as they open the door and say, "I have been with them all day now it is your turn."
And unless you have 5-10 little kids at home staying home with the kids is not nearly as dramatic as most women make it out to be. If my wife came to me tomorrow and said she wanted to go get a full time job and I could stay home with the kids I would jump on that in nano second. We have two girls 5 & 7 and they are a joy to spend the day with. And then once they are in school that is 6-7 hours a day they are not even home.
Now if both parents work full time then the children, the housework and the yard work responsibilities should be divided up 50/50 as both come home very tired just putting in a full day at the rock quarry alone. If both work full time and the man still expects the wife to do all the child care, all the cooking and all the cleaning than that women has a raw deal and needs to change something very quickly.
I am not making the generalization that all or most men are busier than women here. Just saying that I find the generalization that women are more busy than men and have less leisure time laughable. |
"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-
"In the end as skeptics we must realize that there is no real knowledge, there is only what is most reasonable to believe." -Coelacanth-
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Ebone4rock
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 08/02/2011 : 08:31:58 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by LizW
| Our time gets eaten up by personal cosmetic upkeep (working out, hair, makeup...), home upkeep such as cleaning and cooking, and child care. Yes it is a new century and this should be an archaic idea but the reality is ... this is still the norm |
Hi Liz, Nice to meet you!
I have to disagree with this though. How can all of the women who are currently online on my facebook page be explained then? I know damn well they are playing those silly little farming games!
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bngbuck
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Posted - 08/02/2011 : 09:54:38 [Permalink]
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Bill scott......
| I am not making the generalization that all or most men are busier than women here. Just saying that I find the generalization that women are more busy than men and have less leisure time laughable. |
I am delighted to confess that for the first time since I began posting on this forum, I agree with one of your statements. We should get together and offer a prayer to God for my enlightenment, followed by a toast to TFSM for creating Him! |
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Bill scott
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Posted - 08/02/2011 : 10:02:19 [Permalink]
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| Originally posted by bngbuck |
| followed by a toast to TFSM for creating Him! |
Got any evidence for that claim? |
"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-
"In the end as skeptics we must realize that there is no real knowledge, there is only what is most reasonable to believe." -Coelacanth-
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LizW
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 08/02/2011 : 10:26:56 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Bill scott
Many men work 40-60 hours per week away from the home under very busy and stressfull situations only to come home after a hard days work to have the wife toss the kids in their lap as soon as they open the door and say, "I have been with them all day now it is your turn." |
If the husband in question works normal business hours, and we are speaking of small children (older children are more autonomous... they are also heavier and less likely to be tossed)then the amount of time between Dad getting home and children going to bed is quite short... maybe an hour or two. Mom has already cleaned up the shampoo, toothpaste, and talcum powder viscosity experiment that happened while she was on the phone with the car repair guy, and she has already rescued the cat from the dishwasher before it got it's "bath". The kids are usually already fed (or are in the midst of being fed) by this time. Dad gets maybe bathtime and a couple of "I don't want to go to bed" meltdowns.
| If my wife came to me tomorrow and said she wanted to go get a full time job and I could stay home with the kids I would jump on that in nano second. |
Of course you would! Grass is always greener. You don't know the stresses of daily responsibility for a human being who does not yet have full communication skills or cognitive function. You also have a job where goals can be reached and there is some satisfaction to that. Household responsibilities are nothing but a continuous battle with entropy... everything a stay at home mom does today will have to be done again tomorrow, no completion just continuation.
Even my female friends from school who are not mothers or wives have less leisure time than my male friends. There not willing to not bath for a few days, or live in a place harboring antibiotic resistant strains of staph infection. They work out more, take more time to offer support to others,and put more time into making sure class assignments are presented well.
| I am not making the generalization that all or most men are busier than women here. Just saying that I find the generalization that women are more busy than men and have less leisure time laughable. |
Laugh while you can monkey boy. Here is an abstract of an article fro the "Journal of Family Psychology" I would have drawn from the actual article but I am not willing to pay for it.
"Spouses' balancing of housework and leisure activities at home may affect their recovery from work. This paper reports on a study of everyday family life in which 30 dual-earner couples were tracked around their homes by researchers who recorded their locations and activities every 10 min. For women, the most frequently pursued activities at home were housework, communication, and leisure; husbands spent the most time in leisure activities, followed by communication and housework. Spouses differed in their total time at home and their proportion of time devoted to leisure and housework activities, with wives observed more often in housework and husbands observed more often in leisure activities. Both wives and husbands who devoted more time to housework had higher levels of evening cortisol and weaker afternoon-to-evening recovery. For wives, husbands' increased housework time also predicted stronger evening cortisol recovery. When both spouses' activities were entered in the same model, leisure predicted husbands' evening cortisol, such that husbands who apportioned more time to leisure, and whose wives apportioned less time to leisure, showed stronger after-work recovery. These results suggest that the division of labor within couples may have implications for physical health." (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2011 APA, all rights reserved)
Oh... and Ebone nice to meet you. Most actions on fb take about 3-5 minutes. It took me over an hour to compose this post and my son has interrupted for various reasons exactly 11 times. |
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sailingsoul
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Posted - 08/02/2011 : 10:53:54 [Permalink]
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| This kind out going around in circles about who is busier women or men, reminds me of the three blind men trying to describe the shape of an elephant. With specific blinder placement all comments are correct. Without blinders to exclude the exceptions they become absurd. SS |
There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS |
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