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the_ignored
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Posted - 08/28/2011 :  12:51:35  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Since I don't know if this guy is a poe or not, I don't know whether to put this in religion or the humour folder.

His whole blog though is so "out there" that I'm thinking that he's most likely a Poe.

He references an earlier post he made, which PZ Myers picked up where he first called for a national registry for atheists.

If he's not a poe, then I just found a gold mine for FSTDT.

What do you guys think? Poe or not? If he is a poe, he's sure fooled a lot of the people over on Myer's blog.

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.

Kil
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Posted - 08/28/2011 :  12:58:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah. Mab posted this on facebook, and I followed suit. It sure looks like a poe. What makes me think it's not is that I couldn't reply. But who knows?

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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sailingsoul
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Posted - 08/28/2011 :  13:48:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Poe or schmo, what's the difference? It's you run of the mill Super Strength Jesus Hate in you face.
This is nothing but the ramblings of another run of the mill mentally disturbed theist. Nothing original or rare with this sick puppy. They're a dime a dozen. Even at that they're over priced. If I was a theist I'd be embarrassed being associated with the likes of people like him. I'm not bothered at all. I enjoy seeing hypocrites broadcasting their condition. Thanks Iggy. SS

There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS
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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/28/2011 :  14:23:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If Pastor Mike Stahl is a Poe, he's put an awfully lot of work into it. I mean, I haven't seen any of the made-up preachers doing things like this.

Oh, look, he's just graduated from Bible college this year.

(Be careful, there's another Pastor Mike Stahl in Pennsylvania, and there might be a third in New York, but I can't get to details on him.)

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Kil
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Posted - 08/28/2011 :  14:42:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
SS:
Poe or schmo, what's the difference?
The difference is whether it's a joke or not.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 08/29/2011 :  05:30:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

SS:
Poe or schmo, what's the difference?
The difference is whether it's a joke or not.


Not sure if this is Betty Bowers in a suit.

I've actually run into pastors and laypeople of certian extremist subsects of Christianity who really think this is appropriate.

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 08/29/2011 :  05:57:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

Originally posted by Kil

SS:
Poe or schmo, what's the difference?
The difference is whether it's a joke or not.


Not sure if this is Betty Bowers in a suit.

I've actually run into pastors and laypeople of certian extremist subsects of Christianity who really think this is appropriate.


I actually think this guy is for real.

Living Waters Church is a popular name with this kind of stuff.

As with most extremists, they have to move from congregation to congregation until they form thier own church. (The rank and file sometimes will oust a hatred spewing priest because sometimes, oddly enough, they go too far.)

He apparently is the pastor of Living Waters Pentecostal Church in Clear Lake, MN. (which would make sense since pentecostals are fairly well known for this kind of crap.) According to his bio on that site he was part of a Hutterite commune in SD and was a chronic runaway before "finding God".

I don't think this is a poe. I think this guy exists and is serious. Usually, Pentecostals focus on Neopaganism. He may consider it stale and needs to make a larger group mad. (Neopagans have about 1 million members in the US. Atheists are larger in number.)

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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/29/2011 :  06:12:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

He apparently is the pastor of Living Waters Pentecostal Church in Clear Lake, MN.
His Blogger and Facebook profiles say he lives in Miramar, Florida.
According to his bio on that site he was part of a Hutterite commune in SD and was a chronic runaway before "finding God".
Which bio on which site? His Facebook page says he used to be a police officer in Florida.

Or it said so, it appears to have been vanished.

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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 08/29/2011 :  09:21:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

He apparently is the pastor of Living Waters Pentecostal Church in Clear Lake, MN.
His Blogger and Facebook profiles say he lives in Miramar, Florida.
According to his bio on that site he was part of a Hutterite commune in SD and was a chronic runaway before "finding God".
Which bio on which site? His Facebook page says he used to be a police officer in Florida.

Or it said so, it appears to have been vanished.


YELP page for Living Waters Petecostal Church.

Found it when searching for his last name and name of church.

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/29/2011 :  15:53:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

YELP page for Living Waters Petecostal Church.

Found it when searching for his last name and name of church.
Yeah, that is a different Mike Stahl. That one is married to Joy. The one who wants to register atheists is married to Gerri.

There are a lot of Mike Stahls around, at least four of whom are pastors.

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Randy
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Posted - 09/02/2011 :  21:04:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here's a nicely put together Youtube rebuttal from The Thinking Atheist.

"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson
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