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marfknox
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  06:24:36  Show Profile  Visit marfknox's Homepage  Send marfknox an AOL message Send marfknox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Friendly Atheist wrote about the idiot mayor of Harrisburg, PA:
Thompson and a host of other religious leaders are about to embark on a three-day fast and prayer campaign to cure the city’s daunting money woes.



“Things that are above and beyond my control, I need God,” Thompson told WHTM TV, the region’s ABC news affiliate. “I depend on Him for guidance. Spiritual guidance. That’s why it’s really no struggle for me to join this fast and prayer.”
Then the city went bankrupt.

What kills me the most about this is say the city ended up doing better. So then that would be proof that God gave enough of a shit about the city of Harrisburg to help out with their "first world problems", meanwhile a quarter of the people on the planet struggle in abject poverty?

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Edited by - marfknox on 10/13/2011 06:25:26

Fripp
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  06:30:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Outside of a 6-block square area, City Island and a beautiful riverwalk area, Harrisburg is a dump.

I know that this is a old logical problem, but if God is all-knowing, then why do people pray? Doesn't god already know about harrisburg's mismanagement? I guess these ass-clowns didn't pray hard enough.

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marfknox
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  10:51:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit marfknox's Homepage  Send marfknox an AOL message Send marfknox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I saw an image posted on FB that showed a couple of people in the first world praying for relatively dumb things (like winning a sports game) and then a third image of a child starving and diseased in obvious abject poverty. I just attempted to find it in a Google search. However, I had to stop searching because the images of poverty I was finding were too painful to look at. As I get older I seem to get more and more angry over the notion that things happen for a reason and prayer works. The Stoics were right about one thing, if there is a God, he/she/it obviously is NOT some personal entity, and most certainly doesn't give a flying fuck about what happens to the human race. We're on our own, and we need to take care of our own problems.

Sing it, Dan: Nothing fails like prayer.

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Edited by - marfknox on 10/13/2011 10:52:54
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Randy
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  11:28:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Brings to mind this story of the commercial pilot that freaks out praying when there's a flight crisis. His lack of action caused deaths. He's sent to prison for ten years.

On another note, while gleening the CNN website comments about a number of passengers that survived a plane wreck, there was this one reader's well written thought......


"I am very grateful that all but the one unlucky passenger escaped serious
harm, but today it is just amazing how many "miracles" happen. From sports
teams winning, to crashed airplane survivors being "saved". I guess god just
happens to pick and choose when he wants and doesn't want to save lives. No
miracle for the hundreds of thousands who are dying in Pakistan, nor for
millions starving worldwide, nor for those right at this moment dying in
accidents or from disease or illness. I would really like to meet this "god"
and ask him his rationale for miracles."

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alienist
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  11:59:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send alienist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So the mayor says he looks for spiritual guidance from god. So then why is he praying for help with money? That seems the opposite of spiritual, but then these religious people are not known for their consistency.

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Fripp
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  13:13:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Randy

Brings to mind this story of the commercial pilot that freaks out praying when there's a flight crisis. His lack of action caused deaths. He's sent to prison for ten years.



That's the kind of story that barely gets any attention, but if a pilot prays and they somehow survive, that gets top-billing on the news.

It's like the old "no atheists in a foxhole" crap. If we are in the shit, stop your fucking praying, pick up a weapon and start shooting, jackass.

We had a lady here some time back whose grandson needed TONS of medical attention. She always asked for God's prayers to help him out. Privately, I always thought: "Lady, thank the medical staff and their education. If god was so great, how come your grandson is in this predicament in the first place?"

"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"

"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?"
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Randy
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  13:52:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Fripp

Originally posted by Randy

Brings to mind this story of the commercial pilot that freaks out praying when there's a flight crisis. His lack of action caused deaths. He's sent to prison for ten years.



That's the kind of story that barely gets any attention, but if a pilot prays and they somehow survive, that gets top-billing on the news.

It's like the old "no atheists in a foxhole" crap. If we are in the shit, stop your fucking praying, pick up a weapon and start shooting, jackass.

We had a lady here some time back whose grandson needed TONS of medical attention. She always asked for God's prayers to help him out. Privately, I always thought: "Lady, thank the medical staff and their education. If god was so great, how come your grandson is in this predicament in the first place?"


Actually, the praying pilot story did get international attention when he was charged. But yeah, the prayer-god-instant-miracle does get way over-played in media ad nauseum. Media knows what the hell they're writing, they're just playing up to the majority.


"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson
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