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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 08/03/2012 : 08:53:00 [Permalink]
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Dave:
Don't know why you'd hate to state the truth. |
Naaa. Just clumsy writing. :P
I mentioned the Peter Sprigg thing. I was still writing after I hit enter. Oh well.
And yes, the FRC is despicable. You'll get no argument from me about that. I'm just trying to sort out the facts.
By the way, where on facebook can I find your post? |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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 Posted - 08/03/2012 : 09:12:43 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
And yes, the FRC is despicable. You'll get no argument from me about that. I'm just trying to sort out the facts. |
And I want to assure you that I applaud that, while at the same time I don't want the larger point to get lost.| By the way, where on facebook can I find your post? |
Linky. Don't know if you'll be able to see it, though. I posted a correction there, too. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13476 Posts |
Posted - 08/03/2012 : 09:32:53 [Permalink]
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Nope. Couldn't see it. Oh well... But I just used the FRC to make the same point on another of my friends page. He's an orthodox Jew and they tend to be very conservative, much like fundamentalist Christians. Only the don't proselytize, and they tend to be a little more accepting of science.
In fact this person is not for making same sex marriage illegal. He just doesn't approve of it for religious reasons. |
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Machi4velli
SFN Regular
USA
854 Posts |
 Posted - 08/03/2012 : 09:58:19 [Permalink]
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FRC claims they weren't trying to reject the condemnation of Uganda. They say they were only lobbying to change the language, albeit still not a way I'd agree with, they didn't want it to seem as if they supported homosexuality as a right or a natural thing, but were still greatly opposed executing them.
It's probably not a point we can prove or disprove unless someone in the conversations with the lobbyists revealed it, and as far as I know, they haven't. I think all that is known is that they spent (I think) $25,000 to lobby for something related to the bill.
We can still suppose that's what they did, but we have to admit there's some guesswork unless there's some more I don't know about.
Edit: well if I read the thread more closely I would have realized this was already covered  |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26020 Posts |
Posted - 08/07/2012 : 22:05:19 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Machi4velli
Edit: well if I read the thread more closely I would have realized this was already covered |
Thanks for this. I was wondering what the dead horse did to deserve another beating.  |
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 08/14/2012 : 06:32:39 [Permalink]
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| I tried the whole Equal Criticism thing in the "Mr. Paul Aints" thread, not one of you backed me up because 'one of the owners was cool with it'. So I gave that crap up. I only want to hear the opinions I already have now, everything else be damned! |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 08/14/2012 : 08:33:36 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
I tried the whole Equal Criticism thing in the "Mr. Paul Aints" thread, not one of you backed me up because 'one of the owners was cool with it'. So I gave that crap up. I only want to hear the opinions I already have now, everything else be damned!
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26020 Posts |
Posted - 08/14/2012 : 10:59:13 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
I tried the whole Equal Criticism thing in the "Mr. Paul Aints" thread, not one of you backed me up because 'one of the owners was cool with it'. |
Well, I still don't get why you had a problem with it. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 08/16/2012 : 06:46:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
No matter how vile I think the FRC's position is, violence of any sort is completely, unequivocally unacceptable.
(I'm guessing the shooter is going to turn out to be left-leaning, at least.)
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Floyd Lee Corkins II was the alleged shooter. Corkins was a volunteer at DC Center for the LGBT Community. That group has soundly, and properly, renounced his actions.
This was crazy, in so many ways. Corkins has just injured another human being, destroyed his own life, and has forced the LGBT community and their supporters to take a defensive posture. Stupid asshole. |
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the_ignored
SFN Addict
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Posted - 08/17/2012 : 06:51:46 [Permalink]
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Here's another example of a supposed liberal going too far. Original story here.
As one might imagine, it gives them the opportunity to paint all liberals with the same brush:
I'd hate getting stuck in his class.
Adam Smith loves getting something for free while chewing out defenseless girls at the same time, and never allowing the girl to respond; typical liberal progressive |
I'll just say this: that guy was an idiot: even despite everything he said and did if he went to that place and was a customer there, he's giving them more money, lot less as he claims.
If you're going to be a jerk, at least be a smart one. Also note that the guy got fired over how he acted. |
>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 08/17/2012 : 07:32:44 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by the_ignored
I'll just say this: that guy was an idiot: even despite everything he said and did if he went to that place and was a customer there, he's giving them more money, lot less as he claims. |
All he got at the drive-through was a free cup of water. |
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ThorGoLucky
Snuggle Wolf
USA
1487 Posts |
Posted - 08/17/2012 : 09:23:11 [Permalink]
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The more extreme that left and right wings go, they curve around and connect:
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Dr. Mabuse
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Equal criticism
