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the_ignored
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 Posted - 08/29/2012 : 07:55:51
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RNC attendee threw peanuts at a black CNN camerawoman while saying: "This is how we feed animals".
At least he was ejected...
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13476 Posts |
 Posted - 08/29/2012 : 08:39:40 [Permalink]
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that racism wasn't the motive. Hardly a conservative I talk to doesn't think the media is tilted left and consistently refers to any media that isn't Fox, "the liberal media." They also feel that pushing the Akin story over the economy is an example it liberal bias. So white or black, this could have been a statement of disgust at how they believe media is unfair to them. 'Cause that's how they see it.
I'm saying that because there are black delegats and even speakers. (Not many.)
Then again, it might have been a racist incident. I just wouldn't jump to that conclusion. |
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Dave W.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13476 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2012 : 14:38:38 [Permalink]
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At first I thought so. But then I saw this comment:
I saw a short story at Huffington that said the USA chants weren’t aimed at her, it was the ron paul loons chanting at a decision not to seat some of their folks and some other item that they felt was rammed through. Another blog, which originally reported it as the Puerto Rican woman being shouted down, now says
the outburst chronicled below was the tail end of a demonstration led by Ron Paul supporters over allowing the Maine delegation to sit.
Given paul’s past love affair with racists I wouldn’t be surprised to hear this occurred, but it seems that it was one of those peculiar happenstances of timing. |
That caused me to look around to see what I could find. And what I found was
this, and even more importantly this, because of the source is PBS.
Last night, the Republican National Convention was moving to officially nominate Mitt Romney as the party's presidential candidate, and the chairwoman of the Committee on Permanent Organization headed to the microphone. Convention Chairman Reince Priebus had just passed a motion to unseat delegates for GOP presidential contender Ron Paul by a voice vote, and before the delegate could speak, Paul supporters -- who said their voices hadn't been heard -- started a ruckus.
As Chairwoman Zori Fonalledas, a delegate from Puerto Rico, tried to start her official business, the Paul people took up a chant of "seat them now!" Other delegates began to shout them down, yelling "USA! USA!"
All in all, it wasn't an event of particular significance. Ron Paul had not closed down his campaign or endorsed Romney, and the days when political conventions were places to hear divergent points of view have long since passed. The Paul forces had a long-stewing complaint with the Republican Party machinery, and were still not reconciled to being pushed aside.
Chairman Priebus pounded the gavel and asked for order on the convention floor, while Fonalledas stood quietly to the side. Once order was restored, the Puerto Rican delegate did what she came to the microphone to do, announce the nomination of House Speaker John Boehner as permanent convention chairman.
Enter social media... |
What do you think? Did Stephen "DarkSyde" Andrew jump to a conclusion without doing any research into the incident to see what was out there before he posted the video on his blog, with comment?
Ya know... I hate those bastards as much as any liberal does. But confirmation bias is one of the first things we should check for. And that is what I cautioned about above. |
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Machi4velli
SFN Regular
USA
854 Posts |
Posted - 08/29/2012 : 16:16:59 [Permalink]
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I couldn't hear any of them to be saying "go back home" as the blog claimed.
The Ron Paul folks were riled up about various things yesterday (not seating the delegates he had, and changing rules meant to somehow block delegates in caucus states going against the popular vote, and I'm not sure what else).
I can't really interpret the incident with the peanuts as anything but racism, however. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 08/29/2012 : 17:42:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Machi4velli
I can't really interpret the incident with the peanuts as anything but racism, however.
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Yeah. Probably it was. But I'm not the only person who came up with the alternate possibility. I'm guessing that we aren't going to learn much more about that incident. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 08/29/2012 : 21:46:43 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
But confirmation bias is one of the first things we should check for. |
Which is why I posted the link as a question. With the small amount of time I had when I posted, I knew something was "off," since the chanting seemed to be happening before the woman ever got close to the podium. In other words, context was missing from that short clip. |
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A Repug screws up again
