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On fire for Christ
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 07/12/2012 : 19:16:03 [Permalink]
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I've seen that before, but it's great. Honestly, the reasons against gay marriage are so transparently absurd that you can tell anyone who advocates them has never thought it through.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
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sailingsoul
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Posted - 07/12/2012 : 19:26:35 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
I've seen that before, but it's great. Honestly, the reasons against gay marriage are so transparently absurd that you can tell anyone who advocates them has never thought it through.
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Anyone but theists who really can't think for thermselves, thus by default don't think for themselves. Great troll job offc. Grow up. 
Edit: for some reason a good bit of my post didn't make it so
I corrected it. |
There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS |
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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 07/12/2012 : 19:31:42 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by sailingsoul
Anyone but theists who really can't thus by default don't think for themselves. Great troll job offc. Grow up.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 07/12/2012 : 19:35:21 [Permalink]
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| 11. Biblical marriages like Solomon's or David's only ever had one man involved, and were so wildly successful they need to be emulated nation- and world-wide. |
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sailingsoul
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Posted - 07/12/2012 : 19:58:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by On fire for Christ
Originally posted by sailingsoul
Anyone but theists who really can't thus by default don't think for themselves. Great troll job offc. Grow up.
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huh?
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I corrected the part that didn't get posted. Reread. |
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 07/12/2012 : 22:23:17 [Permalink]
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| Old or new, that thing's a classic parody. I hadn't seen it so thanks for posting it, OffC. In an inverse way, it has many good points. Sometimes that's the best way to make a point. |
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 07/13/2012 : 10:26:07 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by sailingsoul
I corrected the part that didn't get posted. Reread.
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I think the part that's confusing everyone is why you called On Fire for Christ's posts a "troll job" and then told him to grow up. It seemed bizarrely hostile. Did you only react to the title and not actually read the reasons? They're intentionally self-refuting, making it a pro gay marriage post. Unless you disagree with gay marriage, I don't ken your motives.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 07/13/2012 : 12:39:00 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
Originally posted by sailingsoul
I corrected the part that didn't get posted. Reread.
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I think the part that's confusing everyone is why you called On Fire for Christ's posts a "troll job" and then told him to grow up. It seemed bizarrely hostile. Did you only react to the title and not actually read the reasons? They're intentionally self-refuting, making it a pro gay marriage post. Unless you disagree with gay marriage, I don't ken your motives. |
I suspect the Poe fooled ss. Sometimes it does that to me, too. |
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 07/13/2012 : 13:33:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
I suspect the Poe fooled ss. Sometimes it does that to me, too.
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I'm not certain myself if On Fire is legitimately a Christian or not (although I tend to think he is), but I'm not sure that's relevant in this instance. It is possible to be a Christian and support gay marriage, which this post clearly does. So how is it "trolling?" Sorry if I'm being dense, I just don't get it.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 07/13/2012 : 13:48:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
Originally posted by HalfMooner
I suspect the Poe fooled ss. Sometimes it does that to me, too.
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I'm not certain myself if On Fire is legitimately a Christian or not (although I tend to think he is), but I'm not sure that's relevant in this instance. It is possible to be a Christian and support gay marriage, which this post clearly does. So how is it "trolling?" Sorry if I'm being dense, I just don't get it. |
No, you're right. In this case I think ss just mistakenly thought OffC's post was meant literally as a condemnation of same-sex marriage. I sometimes get in a very literal frame of mind, myself. Its almost as bad as being caught in a metaphysical mind set. I've also gone off on OffC when it was undeserved, to my regret. It was because I got angry right off the bat, and then didn't read carefully. |
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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 07/13/2012 : 19:17:45 [Permalink]
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| Lots of Christians support or are indifferent to gay marriage. In America for example the Episcopalians just became the first major church to bless same sex marriages. Not all Christians are intolerant, not all atheists are tolerant. |
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 07/13/2012 : 21:39:24 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by On fire for Christ
Lots of Christians support or are indifferent to gay marriage. The Episcopalians for example will bless same sex marriages. not all Christians are intolerant, not all atheists are tolerant. |
Yes, fair enough in warning against prejudice.
But of those who oppose same-sex marriage, how many do so backed by dogma? I'd say the vast majority, as religious objections are the primary force against gay marriage. At present (and this is shifting remarkably fast), most religious people probably still oppose gay marriage. Most atheists are unopposed.
The vast majority of Freethinkers do not oppose same-sex marriage, because even if they think homosexuality is "icky," they think of it as someone else's private business.
Even the American Episcopals you site do not allow their clergy to solemnize "marriage," only a "blessing." Even that half-hearted concession may lead to the breakup of the Anglican Union, which is dominated by quite anti-gay churches due to large, conservative African memberships. |
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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 07/13/2012 : 21:52:23 [Permalink]
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| yes on this particular issue many religious groups are standing in the way of progress. On other issues "freethinkers" and atheists are the problem. |
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 07/13/2012 : 22:00:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by On fire for Christ
yes on this particular issue many religious groups are standing in the way of progress. On other issues "freethinkers" and atheists are the problem. |
Which issues are those? And are all Freethinkers the problem with those "issues"?
It's not the baby-eating, is it? I mean, that a bedrock custom with us. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 07/13/2012 : 22:46:29 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by On fire for Christ
On other issues "freethinkers" and atheists are the problem. |
Yeah, seriously: name one. |
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Ten reasons to oppose gay marriage
