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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 07/15/2012 :  00:20:27  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Edit: First, the replacement image:




Please note: Photo of the man on the left (below) has been shown to almost certainly be falsely attributed as a "Kurdish atheist activist." The man in the photo is almost certainly Majid Kavoosifar, an alleged bank robber and murderer of an Iranian judge. At this time, I am working to fix my unintended spreading of misinformation. My apologies!



Atheist hero Husayn Khudhri, Theist bigot coward Kirk Cameron

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.

Edited by - HalfMooner on 07/16/2012 00:18:38

the_ignored
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Posted - 07/15/2012 :  08:16:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am so spreading this around...also, here's another example, from PZ Myers' site. There'a a link there where you can send emails to him.


>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
Edited by - the_ignored on 07/15/2012 08:18:55
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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 07/15/2012 :  08:41:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by the_ignored

I am so spreading this around...also, here's another example, from PZ Myers' site. There'a a link there where you can send emails to him.


Thank you very much,

I think the above graphic is probably the best I've ever put together, though no part of it was really my original work. I simply saw the photo of Husayn Khudhri and was amazed at his calm joy at greeting those he knew, one last time, prior to being yanked up by his neck with a cable by a crane. And then I mentally compared that image to Kirk Cameron playing the phony "Christian martyr" role in a recent interview. The comparison disgusted me, and it occurred to me to put the two men side-by-side. I'm in awe of Khudhri's atheist bravery, sickened by Cameron's gay-bullying cowardice.

I hope the graphic gets freely and widely distributed!

Thanks for the link, too!

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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jpf
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Posted - 07/15/2012 :  21:21:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send jpf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner
Thank you very much,

I think the above graphic is probably the best I've ever put together, though no part of it was really my original work. I simply saw the photo of Husayn Khudhri and was amazed at his calm joy at greeting those he knew, one last time, prior to being yanked up by his neck with a cable by a crane. And then I mentally compared that image to Kirk Cameron playing the phony "Christian martyr" role in a recent interview. The comparison disgusted me, and it occurred to me to put the two men side-by-side. I'm in awe of Khudhri's atheist bravery, sickened by Cameron's gay-bullying cowardice.

I hope the graphic gets freely and widely distributed!

Thanks for the link, too!
That image isn't of an atheist activist. He's Majid Kavoosifar (Daily Mail. WARNING: shows him hanging dead) who was convicted of assassinating a judge (BBC source with pre-hanging photo). Here's a source with more information about Kavoosifar (not sure of the writer's political affiliation or how balanced this is -- he's skeptical of the official Iranian story and implies a coverup, but doesn't say Kavoosifar has anything to do with atheism or wasn't at least involved with the assassination).
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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 07/15/2012 :  21:35:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by jpf

Originally posted by HalfMooner
Thank you very much,

I think the above graphic is probably the best I've ever put together, though no part of it was really my original work. I simply saw the photo of Husayn Khudhri and was amazed at his calm joy at greeting those he knew, one last time, prior to being yanked up by his neck with a cable by a crane. And then I mentally compared that image to Kirk Cameron playing the phony "Christian martyr" role in a recent interview. The comparison disgusted me, and it occurred to me to put the two men side-by-side. I'm in awe of Khudhri's atheist bravery, sickened by Cameron's gay-bullying cowardice.

I hope the graphic gets freely and widely distributed!

Thanks for the link, too!
That image isn't of an atheist activist. He's Majid Kavoosifar (Daily Mail. WARNING: shows him hanging dead) who was convicted of assassinating a judge (BBC source with pre-hanging photo). Here's a source with more information about Kavoosifar (not sure of the writer's political affiliation or how balanced this is -- he's skeptical of the official Iranian story and implies a coverup, but doesn't say Kavoosifar has anything to do with atheism or wasn't at least involved with the assassination).
Thanks, and welcome to SFN, jpf! I'll try looking into that.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 07/15/2012 :  22:16:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Indeed, jpf, it seems I have a problem here. I should have researched the story of "Khudhri" as well as I'd researched Cameron, before I posted to OP! My apology to all.

The "Husayn Khudhri" story is quite widespread on the Internet, but seems to be the same brief account repeated over and over, with no sourcing attached. The Mail and BBC links seem to be valid in pointing out that the person I have in my image was the alleged judge-killer and bank robber, Majid Kavoosifar. (I agree, there's something fishy about the official Iranian story on Kavoosifar, but that doesn't excuse or fix my unintentional spreading of disinformation.)

I'll be trying to fix this, today. Thanks again!

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Edited by - HalfMooner on 07/16/2012 00:39:52
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 07/16/2012 :  00:21:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There, I fixed it. Kinda-sorta. Lesson agonizingly repeated: Skeptics get suckered, too. I think that pretty much all sides on Iranian issues are using a lot of disinformation.

Thank you once again for the correction, jpf!

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Edited by - HalfMooner on 07/16/2012 01:15:12
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On fire for Christ
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Saudi Arabia
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Posted - 07/16/2012 :  01:19:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kirk Cameron's complaining about being persecuted is laughable when people in the world are really being persecuted.

It's almost like some hypothetical woman for example, complaining about a guy hitting on her in a lift, when there are women in Iran etc. who aren't even allowed to drive. Talk about first world problems.

Edited by - On fire for Christ on 07/16/2012 01:20:45
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 07/16/2012 :  01:26:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

Kirk Cameron's complaining about being persecuted is laughable when people in the world are really being persecuted.

It's almost like some hypothetical woman for example, complaining about a guy hitting on her in a lift, when there are women in Iran etc. who aren't even allowed to drive. Talk about first world problems.
And there's a perfectly good thread for that discussion.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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On fire for Christ
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Saudi Arabia
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Posted - 07/16/2012 :  01:30:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes but that thread has nothing to do with Kirk Cameron. I linked the two topics, so this one is perfectly good too.

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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 07/16/2012 :  02:26:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

Yes but that thread has nothing to do with Kirk Cameron. I linked the two topics, so this one is perfectly good too.
Nor does this thread have anything to do with Rebecca Watson. Probably bringing up Kirk Cameron over in that thread would be a diversion to the discussion there. But if you think you can do something interesting by contrasting the two people, I invite you to start a new thread, perhaps in General Skepticism.

But not here, please. I'm staying out of the Watson discussion, having previously had my ass handed to me in it due to my ignorance on the subject. And that discussion will stay out of the forum I moderate, as a personal preference.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Machi4velli
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USA
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Posted - 07/16/2012 :  11:48:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

Yes but that thread has nothing to do with Kirk Cameron. I linked the two topics, so this one is perfectly good too.


That's actually a fair point I think, and one to make here and not elsewhere, if I've interpreted correctly: worse things happening elsewhere doesn't mean we can't complain about legitimate, but less severe, wrongs. But I haven't actually seen any wrong to Kirk at all, being "subjected to an unreasonable amount of scrutiny" simply isn't being wronged as a public figure when the scrutiny is about public statements (and this makes it reasonable even).

Edit: I guess he was saying neither one was really wronged and should stop complaining, so the above didn't really apply.

"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking

"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
-Albert Camus
Edited by - Machi4velli on 07/16/2012 13:51:03
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 07/16/2012 :  23:36:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Machi4velli

Originally posted by On fire for Christ

Yes but that thread has nothing to do with Kirk Cameron. I linked the two topics, so this one is perfectly good too.


That's actually a fair point I think, and one to make here and not elsewhere, if I've interpreted correctly: worse things happening elsewhere doesn't mean we can't complain about legitimate, but less severe, wrongs.
Maybe. But, just as I chose to lick my wounds and stay the f out of the Rebecca Watson thread, I'm choosing to keep that topic out of this thread. I want to both run and hide. I apologize, as this is not a matter of principle. It's just a personal choice. The Admins may overrule my decision if they like, but I think I'm not really censoring by politely asking people to take that particular issue elsewhere in SFN.

I don't always do this kind of "stick to the topic" moderating, but when I do, it's for no good reason.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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