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the_ignored
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Posted - 08/05/2012 :  20:48:28  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The link is here.

Here's what it's about: (I know that we're not supposed to quote the entire article, but I don't think that they'd mind in this case)


Earlier this year, Indonesian civil servant Alexander Aan posted on Facebook that he doubted the existence of God. He was then attacked and beaten by an angry mob, and arrested for blasphemy.

On June 14, Aan was convicted of “disseminating information aimed at inciting religious hatred or hostility,” sentenced to 30 months in prison, and saddled with a large fine. Now many Indonesians are calling for his death.

By punishing Aan, Indonesia is violating its obligations to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, which guarantees every person the rights to freedom of belief and expression. We petition the Obama administration to call upon the Indonesian government to immediately release Alexander Aan and improve its protections for religious dissidents and nonbelievers.

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.

Edited by - the_ignored on 08/05/2012 20:50:03

On fire for Christ
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Norway
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Posted - 08/05/2012 :  22:45:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But clearly he DID incite religious hate and hostility....

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 08/05/2012 :  23:04:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

But clearly he DID incite religious hate and hostility....
All the incitement, "hate and hostility" and violence was perpetrated by Islamic mullahs, mobs, and the Indonesian government. Aan merely posted his doubts on Facebook. Theist assholes did all the evil stuff, as is their wont.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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the_ignored
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Posted - 08/06/2012 :  03:46:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

Originally posted by On fire for Christ

But clearly he DID incite religious hate and hostility....
All the incitement, "hate and hostility" and violence was perpetrated by Islamic mullahs, mobs, and the Indonesian government. Aan merely posted his doubts on Facebook. Theist assholes did all the evil stuff, as is their wont.

Exactly. If expressing doubt is truly what you call inciting hatred and you're not just being sarcastic here, then f&&k you.

Are you truly saying that he brought all that shit on himself just for expressing doubt about religion on a fucking social networking site??

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 08/06/2012 :  05:33:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by the_ignored

Originally posted by HalfMooner

Originally posted by On fire for Christ

But clearly he DID incite religious hate and hostility....
All the incitement, "hate and hostility" and violence was perpetrated by Islamic mullahs, mobs, and the Indonesian government. Aan merely posted his doubts on Facebook. Theist assholes did all the evil stuff, as is their wont.

Exactly. If expressing doubt is truly what you call inciting hatred and you're not just being sarcastic here, then f&&k you.

Are you truly saying that he brought all that shit on himself just for expressing doubt about religion on a fucking social networking site??


We're talking about someone who still uses a burning cross avatar as a positive image, not exactly a bastion of "Inciting hatred" logic.

OFFC is more guilty of inciting hatred than is Mr. Aan.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
Edited by - BigPapaSmurf on 08/06/2012 05:33:27
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sailingsoul
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Posted - 08/06/2012 :  11:30:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by the_ignored

Originally posted by HalfMooner

Originally posted by On fire for Christ

But clearly he DID incite religious hate and hostility....
All the incitement, "hate and hostility" and violence was perpetrated by Islamic mullahs, mobs, and the Indonesian government. Aan merely posted his doubts on Facebook. Theist assholes did all the evil stuff, as is their wont.

Exactly. If expressing doubt is truly what you call inciting hatred and you're not just being sarcastic here, then f&&k you.

Are you truly saying that he brought all that shit on himself just for expressing doubt about religion on a fucking social networking site??
Religion, it's all about the love and salvation. Lets not forget they get their morality from god, which is a good thing. Imagine what Muslims and Hypocrite Christians could be like if God wasn't there to tell them what's moral behavior toward other human beings with different beliefs. Mr. Aan doesn't have to imagine shit, he knows first hand.

Thanks for posting this Iggy, petition signed!

There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS
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Machi4velli
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Posted - 08/06/2012 :  14:44:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nothing like putting the blame on someone for "inciting violence" as if the perpetrators of the violence aren't responsible for controlling themselves.

Signed.

"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking

"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
-Albert Camus
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ThorGoLucky
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Posted - 08/06/2012 :  18:06:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit ThorGoLucky's Homepage Send ThorGoLucky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Already signed. Let's hope he survives unscathed from the thought police.
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Kil
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Posted - 08/06/2012 :  18:24:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Signed.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 08/06/2012 :  19:18:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was being facetious.

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the_ignored
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Posted - 08/06/2012 :  21:15:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ok.

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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