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sailingsoul
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 Posted - 02/02/2013 : 19:56:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ThorGoLucky
I asked Gunner to explain how fuel mileage is increased by simply connecting a ground wire to the radiator.
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I believe the he's connecting the wire to the positive terminal of the battery. At one minute into the video he say's "the positive electrons". That's not connecting a ground wire to the radiator. |
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Posted - 02/02/2013 : 22:03:12 [Permalink]
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| I'd never take scientific advice from people who confuse "threw" and "through". |
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Posted - 02/03/2013 : 20:11:00 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ThorGoLucky
Originally posted by sailingsoul
Who dreams this shit up?  What a very stupid thing to do.
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Originally posted by Dave W.
The description on that video has an abundance of evidence that the author is ignorant of very many things.
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Indeed. The man talking in the video is my dear online gaming buddy, Scott Ladouceur (aka Gunner). I and others in our gaming clan have had many long forum topics with him attempting to explain basic science. He would seem to get it at times but then fall back into his rut of misconceptions. He can't understand why planets orbit the Sun and drew what would actually happen if there wasn't some kind of force that held things apart:
And when his arguments get refuted, he turns to grand conspiracies. The reason such inventions as his wire trick and the Joe Cell aren't ubiquitous is due to grand conspiracies by the oil companies, car companies, and of course the government. Sigh.
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I think I just ruptured something from the sudden and uncontrolled laughter this drawing generated.
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 02/04/2013 : 06:43:12 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ThorGoLucky
I asked Gunner to explain how fuel mileage is increased by simply connecting a ground wire to the radiator. After a barrage of cut-and-paste links and videos, he finally explained in his own words:
This is all explained in the description, including how Hydrogen can be stored in solid objects, in fact more so then they can via pressurizing it. They can now store the surface area of a football field of Hydrogen in a pea sized "solid" object.
So, as the water is running threw the block the spark plugs firing release covalent bonds (electrons) This can be tested before installing the wire with a voltage tester, put the negative on the negative of the battery and dip the positive in the water to show a millivolt charge showing there are freed up electrons.
This hole dopes the water molacules, removes the freed up electrons.
The then freed up Hydrogen or H+ is literally able to saturate the block and aid in the combustion chamber. Batteries increase in voltage, water (burnt Hydrogen) is seen in large amounts dripping out the tailpipe (not a blown head gasket.) A cooler running engine as well as less emissions (tested and confirmed) and savings are the results.
Now this does not mean this works on every vehicle, there could be problems such as anti electrolysis radiator fluid, oil supplements that coat the walls not allowing the hydrogen to get into the combustion chamber are just a few problems that i can think of that can mess it up.
It is also common knowledge now that when they use electrolysis to clean engine parts hydrogen can saturate the parts.
The nanomaterials just increase the hydrogen production, if one where to take apart their radiator after using this for some time they would find a fine white powder (nanomaterial) on the walls of the radiator.
I know you would feel silly trying the one wire experiment but what do you have to lose? This is all explained scientifically now to the best of my ability. |
http://forum.thorgolucky.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=8469
In other words, a wire connected to an already grounded radiator magically produces hydrogen that then magically makes its way to the combustion chamber. Got it.
EDIT: An additional quote from a different topic puts this all into perspective.
| ...as I have stated many times, i disregard science when it goes against my experimental data, data does not have to make sense , it just needs to be truthful. |
Oh, the arrogance.
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I hate to put it this way, but I have owned a car that was grounded this way.
1976 Ford Mustang II with the Cobra II package. 6 cylander.
It wasn't particularly easy on gas, but the 8-track tape player was awesome. |
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sailingsoul
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Posted - 02/04/2013 : 07:05:10 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by sailingsoul
At one minute into the video he say's "the positive electrons". |
Ooops! I got that wrong. He's actually talking about taking "positive ions". Ummm, Ions can have either positive or negative charges and are atoms or molecules. Batteries do not selectively put out positive ions or put out ions at all for that matter. He goes on to "eslpain", because he's not explaining shit, how the positive ions come out of the battery to "excite" the coolant water with "free electrons". And goes on to say that on the car this was done there is now water coming out of the exhaust which is proof that it's working!!!!
Oh it's working all right. Putting a positively charged copper wire into an engine's water jacket is exactly what I considered very stupid. It should be no surprise there is now water coming out the exhaust. Anyone want to guess how that's now happening? He does one thing right, the water coming out the exhaust is not from a blown head gasket.
He's just blowing positively charge bubbles out his butt.
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Posted - 02/04/2013 : 23:01:52 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Never take scientific advice from someone who thinks there are "positive electrons."
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In the mirrorverse there are positive electrons with goattees. |
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 02/06/2013 : 12:30:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Never take scientific advice from someone who thinks there are "positive electrons."
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We usually call them "positrons".
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Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 02/07/2013 : 14:17:57 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Originally posted by Dave W.
Never take scientific advice from someone who thinks there are "positive electrons."
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We usually call them "positrons".
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And then shit blows up.
Oh, sorry..... that's anti-electrons. |
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Posted - 02/07/2013 : 23:36:14 [Permalink]
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| I think an antimatter drive would definitely increase mileage |
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Posted - 02/08/2013 : 14:52:02 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
anti-electrons.
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Yes. Positrons.
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Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
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Increase mileage with a single wire
