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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 02/01/2013 :  08:46:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

How weird, a girl could have had sex with her exactly one year older boyfriend from when she was 15 until the day she turns 17, then can't have sex with him for a whole year until she turns 18?
There are men in the U.S. who must register as sex offenders every time they move because at age 18 they had sex with their 17-year-old girlfriends whose parents found out and had the guy arrested for statutory rape.

What's weirder is that some of these men are now married to those same girlfriends, but still, by law, must register as sex offenders.

Registering as a sex offender tends to be a big deal to the neighborhoods in which those so registered move, because people tend to think "brutal forcible rapist" or "pedophile" when they hear "sex offender," and not "got busted by girlfriend's dad."

Sex-offender databases are public, searchable by address and distance, and display mug shots, full names, ages and the name of the crime for which they were found guilty, but no details. I want to see violent repeat sexual predators in such databases, and not kids-but-legally-adults who got caught fumbling around in the backseat of mom's station wagon, but apparently the laws are written to prevent judges and juries from having such discretion.

That seems like just plain wrong. For so many reasons... One of them being that once you've paid your debt to society, you should be off the hook unless you've proven yourself unable to comply with the social contract (like serial rapists and/or multiple convictions).
Registered offences should have a time limit depending on the severity of the crime. If there are repeat offenses, time limit count-down should be reset.

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the_ignored
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Posted - 02/02/2013 :  14:20:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

If it was the same as the age of consent it would encourage pornographers to travel to states with a lower age and produce porn with 15 year olds for example. Would watching that be legal in another state? I'm not sure.

I was thinking nationally; I forgot that it's apparently different in each state. In Canada to me, it's uniform. I think.

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What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 02/03/2013 :  06:08:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sometimes, age of porn actors aren't recognised.
I remember reading a story about a man from Florida(?) arrested for smuggling child pornography, even though it turned out the actress was 20+. The actress even came to the man's defence once she heard about his plight. I think she was Central- or South American, don't remember her name.


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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 02/04/2013 :  06:49:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Sometimes, age of porn actors aren't recognised.
I remember reading a story about a man from Florida(?) arrested for smuggling child pornography, even though it turned out the actress was 20+. The actress even came to the man's defence once she heard about his plight. I think she was Central- or South American, don't remember her name.




Which is why big porn producers like Vivid Video and others get information and documentation of all their actresses to prevent the Linda Lovelace problem. They have records available proving that the acresses are of age.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 02/04/2013 :  19:46:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

Which is why big porn producers like Vivid Video and others get information and documentation of all their actresses to prevent the Linda Lovelace problem. They have records available proving that the acresses are of age.
Actually, such record-keeping has been mandated by Federal law since 1988. The big porn producers are opposed to the law.

And Linda Lovelace was at least 21 when she started. You're thinking of Traci Lords, who got into the industry at age 15.

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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 02/05/2013 :  08:46:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

Which is why big porn producers like Vivid Video and others get information and documentation of all their actresses to prevent the Linda Lovelace problem. They have records available proving that the acresses are of age.
Actually, such record-keeping has been mandated by Federal law since 1988. The big porn producers are opposed to the law.

And Linda Lovelace was at least 21 when she started. You're thinking of Traci Lords, who got into the industry at age 15.


That was the individual I was thinking of. Thanks, Dave.

The big porn producers were against providing PPE for the actors as well.

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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 02/06/2013 :  13:10:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There has been a debate in Sweden about what constitutes child pornography, but that debate unfortunately died out without really resolving the problem.
A Swedish translator of Manga comics was prosecuted for possession of child porn. Specifically child rape.

The debate is, where do we draw the line? If no actual person is involved as a model for a fictional work, produced digitally or drawn by hand, when is it a crime if there is no victim? Pictures can be made all the way from simple stick pictures to photo-realism. And while I do think that there must be something wrong in the head of someone enjoying a photo-realistic drawing of a child rape, in all fairness I need to acknowledge that the picture could have been made without any child being an actual victim.

Manga may be provocative, but isn't it still a work of art?

Maybe this is a completely separate issue to being an under-age porn actor?

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