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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/22/2013 :  16:47:08  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't recall how, but I stumbled across a YouTube show called TableTop, all about table-top gaming. The show was created by Wil Wheaton and Felicia Day, and also hosted on a site called “Geek & Sundry,” which includes a slew of other shows.

Basically, TableTop is a game review show except they don't actually do any sort of proper review. Wil Wheaton introduces the game, explains how it plays, and then he and some other famous people play the game. The losers (which usually include Wil) are humiliated and the winner(s) exhalted. Roll credits.

So there's not a lot of stuff you might expect to find in a regular review, like comparing the features of the game of the week to other similar games. You won't find complaints about bad game mechanics or praise for new and interesting ones. It's just a bunch of people playing a game. Different people each week (but always Wil Wheaton).

And for reasons I can't explain, I think this show is awesome.

Awesome enough that I needed to post about it here, and put my own episode list together because the interfaces both at YouTube and Geek & Sundry suck for watching episodes in order. So here they are (I'll update as the episodes past S2E6 come online):



Season 1

S1E1: Small World
Extended Edition (2:05)
Jenna Busch
Grant Imahara
Sean Plott
Gag Reel

S1E2: Settlers of Catan
Jane Espenson
Neil Grayston
James Kyson
Gag Reel

S1E3: Zombie Dice, Get Bit! & Tsuro
Ryan Higa
Ron Roddenberry
Freddie Wong
Gag Reel

S1E4: Ticket to Ride
Amy Dallen
Colin Ferguson
Anne Wheaton
Gag Reel

S1E5: Munchkin
Felicia Day
Steve Jackson
Sandeep Parikh
Gag Reel

S1E6: Castle Panic
Extended Edition (1:47)
Yuri Lowenthal
Andre Meadows
Tara Platt
Gag Reel

S1E7: Gloom
Amber Benson
Michele Boyd
Meghan Camarena
Gag Reel

S1E8: Fiasco
Part 2 (actually S1E9)
Set-up
Bonnie Burton
Alison Haislip
John Rogers
Gag Reel

S1E10: Say Anything
Josh A. Cagan
Matt Mira
Jonah Ray
Gag Reel

S1E11: Elder Sign
Felicia Day
Mike Morhaime
Bill Prady
Gag Reel

S1E12: Dixit
Leo Chu
Casey McKinnon
Beth Riesgraf
Gag Reel

S1E13: Wits & Wagers
Veronica Belmont
Phil LaMarr
Jimmy Wong
Gag Reel

S1E14: Pandemic
Extended Edition (1:24)
Ed Brubaker
Robert Gifford
Morgan Webb
Gag Reel

S1E15: Last Night on Earth
Felicia Day
Riki Lindhome
Kate Micucci
Gag Reel

S1E16: Star Fluxx
Alex Albrecht
Chloe Dykstra
Jordan Mechner
Gag Reel

S1E17: Alhambra
Ashley Johnson
Dodger Leigh
Shane Nickerson
Gag Reel

S1E18: Chez Geek
Storm DiConstanzo
Andrew Hackard
Paul Sabourin
Gag Reel

S1E19: Dragon Age
Part 2
Chris Hardwick
Chris Pramas
Kevin Sussman
Sam Witwer
Gag Reel



Season 2

S2E1: Formula D
Extended Edition (1:55)
Greg Benson
Hannah Hart
Grace Helbig
Gag Reel

S2E2: The Resistance
Ashley Clements
Amy Okuda
Allison Scagliotti
Gag Reel

S2E3: Once Upon a Time
Amy Berg
Mike Phirman
Chris “Doc” Wyatt
Gag Reel

S2E4: King of Tokyo
John “Totalbiscuit” Bain
Craig “Wheezy Waiter” Benzine
Greg Zeschuk
Gag Reel

S2E5: Forbidden Island
Bobak Ferdowsi
Jason Finn
John Scalzi
Gag Reel

S2E6: Smash Up
Cara Santa Maria
Rich Sommer
Jen Timms
Gag Reel

S2E8: Star Trek Catan
Extended Edition (2:25)
Jeri Ryan
Kari Whalgren
Ryan Wheaton
Gag Reel

S2E9: Star Wars X-Wing
Extended Edition (1:40)
Clare Grant
Seth Green
Mike Lamond
Gag Reel

S2E10: Lords of Waterdeep
Extended Edition (2:21)
Felicia Day
Brandon Laatsch
Pat Rothfuss
Gag Reel

S2E11: Shadows over Camelot
Jerry Holkins
Mike Krahulik
Tara Strong
Gag Reel

S2E12: Betrayal at House on the Hill, part 1 and part 2
Ashly Burch
Keahu Kahuanui
Michael Swaim
Gag Reel

S2E14: Takenoko
Extended Edition (1:27)
Harley Morenstein
Rosanna Pansino
Drew Roy
Gag Reel

S2E15: Unspeakable Words
Troy Baker
Erin Gray
Gag Reel

S2E16: Qwirkle and 12 Days
Extended Edition (1:39)
Kelly Hu
Nolan Kopp
Meredith Salenger
Gag Reel

S2E17: Tsuro of the Seas
Extended Edition (1:03)
Brendan Halloran
Andy Hull
Kevin Pereira
Gag Reel

S2E18: Carcassonne
Extended Edition (1:35)
Jesse Cox
Nika Harper
Kumail Nanjiani
Gag Reel

S2E19: Ticket to Ride: Europe
Emma Caulfield
John Kovalic
Anne Wheaton
Gag Reel

S2E20: Fortune and Glory
Ryon Day
Brandon Routh
Gag Reel

S2E21: Lords of Vegas
The Doubleclicks
Miracle Laurie
Gag Reel



Season 3

S3E1: Tokaido
Chris Kluwe
J. August Richards
Jason Wishnov
Gag Reel

S3E2: Forbidden Desert
Felicia Day
Jon Heder
Alan Tudyk
Gag Reel
Notes on gameplay errors

S3E3: Catan Junior
Emily Anderson
Brett Baligad
Adam Chernick
Gag Reel

S3E4: The Hare and the Tortoise & Council of Verona
Alison Haislip
David Kwong
Jessica Merizan
Gag Reel

S3E5: Stone Age
Jesse Cox
Nika Harper
Jordan Maron
Gag Reel

S3E6: Geek Out
Bonnie Burton
Clare Kramer
Anne Wheaton
Gag Reel

S3E7: Sheriff of Nottingham
Ashley Clements
Derek Mio
Meredith Salenger
Gag Reel

S3E8: Dead of Winter
Grant Imahara
Ashley Johnson
Dodger Leigh
Gag Reel

S3E9: Epic Spell Wars
Veronica Belmont
Emily V. Gordon
Jonah Ray
Gag Reel

S3E10: Cards Against Humanity (NSFW!)
Laina Morris
Ali Spagnola
Aisha Tyler
Gag Reel

S3E11: Five Tribes
Jenna Busch
Richard Garriott
Satine Phoenix
Gag Reel

S3E12: Concept
Rhett McLaughlin
Link Neal
Joseph Scrimshaw
Gag Reel

S3E13: Dread, Part 1 and Part 2
Laura Bailey
Molly Lewis
Ivan Van Norman

S3E14: Libertalia
Karen Gillan
Clare Grant
Seth Green
Gag Reel

S3E15: Love Letter & Coup
Felicia Day
Benny Fine
Rafi Fine
Gag Reel

S3E16: Kingdom Builder
Yuri Lowenthal
Tara Platt
Paul Scheer
Tabletop, Kingdom Builder, and Screwing Up the Rules
Gag Reel

S3E17: Legendary
Allie Brosh
Mark Fischbach
Brea Grant
Gag Reel

S3E18: Sushi Go & Roll For It
John Ross Bowie
Jennifer Hale
Jason Ritter
Gag Reel

S3E19: Mice & Mystics, Part 1 and Part 2
Nolan Kopp
Anne Wheaton
Ryan Wheaton
Gag Reel



Season 4

S4E1: Lanterns
Zac Eubank
Becca Scott Kerns
Ivan Van Norman

S4E2: Champions of Midgard
Chris Kluwe
Alison Haislip
Marisha Ray

S4E3: Monarch
Ashley Clements
Brea Grant
Satine Phoenix

S4E4: Tiny Epic Galaxies
Mayim Bialik
Tim Schafer
Andy Weir

S4E5: Fury of Dracula, Part 1
Grant Imahara
Ify Nwadiwe
Amy Okuda

S4E6: Fury of Dracula, Part 2
Grant Imahara
Ify Nwadiwe
Amy Okuda




Titansgrave: The Ashes of Valkana (the RPG show)

Cast:Chapter 0 - Wil Wheaton Introduces Valkana! (YouTube)

Chapter 1 - The Journey Begins! (YouTube)

Chapter 2 - Evil Awakens! (YouTube)

Chapter 3 - Danger at the Market! (YouTube)

Chapter 4 - Sewer Terror (YouTube)

Chapter 5 - Staff of Forlorn Hope (YouTube)

Chapter 6 - Heroes of the Past (YouTube)

Chapter 7 - Danger at Reed Manor (YouTube)

Chapter 8 - Finding the Portal (YouTube)

Chapter 9 - Nightmare Visions (YouTube)

Chapter 10 - The Prophet (YouTube)



Other Media

Vidcon - Wil Finally Wins a Game

TableTop Hangout with Wil Wheaton (0:57) - Wil answers questions

March 30th, 2013, was International TableTop Day, which they live-streamed:Amy Dallen’s Behinds the Scenes at TableTop

Wil Wheaton - NOT the Flog (TableTop Bonus)

Wil Wheaton - NOT The Flog 2 (TableTop Bonus)

Wil Wheaton - NOT The Flog 3 (TableTop Bonus)

TableTop wins The Diana Jones Award for Excellence in Gaming

TableTop also won (see @3:23 and @5:00) an Ennie

Wil Wheaton Interview - Gen Con 2013

Wil Wheaton at Denver Comic Con on What to Look Forward to for Season 2.5 of TableTop

Wil Wheaton - NOT The Flog 4 (TableTop Bonus)

TableTop Day 2014:TableTop Season 3:
TableTop's Spin-Off RPG Show:
International TableTop Day 2015 will be on April 11.
International TableTop Day 2016 will be on April 30.Tabletop season 4:

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ThorGoLucky
Snuggle Wolf

USA
1360 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2013 :  08:53:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit ThorGoLucky's Homepage Send ThorGoLucky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the list, Dave. I had forgotten about that Will Wheaton series. I saw the first one with Small World, a fun game that I have including some expansions. I have also played Pandemic many times, and the new World War Z game is basically Pandemic with the diseases replaced with zombies. Speaking of zombies, Last Night on Earth is a fun semi-party-game but the rules can be a bugger.

My little 1000' house is configured for hosting board gaming that can have a table in every room, up to four tables with a score of players at a time.


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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
25713 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2013 :  09:57:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Before ever seeing the show, we owned Smallworld, Munchkin, Castle Panic, King of Tokyo and Forbidden Island. (I'm just talking about games mentioned on the show so far, we had lots of other games, too.) We had regular Fluxx, but I ran out and bought Star Fluxx because of TableTop. I got my wife to watch the show, and she insists we need a copy of Get Bit! now, and thinks Ticket to Ride would be good for our family, too.

Our dining room is actually our game room. We've had six players at once before, but we don't often have people over for anything.

My wife and I are actually hooked on Dominion, buying the first three sets before discovering the joy of online play where we don't have to shuffle. So we're on Goko quite often. The newest expansion, Guilds, throws quite a few twists around.

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sailingsoul
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Posted - 06/23/2013 :  10:08:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I can't find a way to search for games they've played or done shows on. Is that the case or an I mistaken?

There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS
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Dave W.
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USA
25713 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2013 :  10:18:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
SS, all the shows they've done so far are listed in the OP.

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sailingsoul
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Posted - 06/23/2013 :  13:22:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

SS, all the shows they've done so far are listed in the OP.
Thanks. ummm, I was going to look up "Pig Mania" but it not there, so I won't.

There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS
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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 06/23/2013 :  14:43:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, they've only done 26 games so far. Give 'em a chance to get to Pig Mania (which is now known as Pass the Pigs).

My family has this game. The score sheets are too dang small for my aging eyes.

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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 06/24/2013 :  10:47:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No collection is complete without Pig Mania, aka Pass The Pigs. bonus of being cheap and enjoyable for alcoholics.

I am a huge board game fan and obsessive about mechanics and the always over-looked rulebooks, heres a few I would suggest.

Best game since Chess Award
Dvonn (the simplicity of Checkers and the strategy of Chess) No one will play with me:(

Best Board Design
Axis and Allies Pacific v1, I have made many maps for many games and none stand up to the glory of this one. Hard to explain but someone like me made it and I have mad respect for them. Also this is my favorite War game, If you own a copy of Risk it should be thrown away, not even worthy of being recycled.

Classics you might not own,
Mastermind
Stratego

Some others I enjoy (meaning the ones people are willing to play)
Tikal
Metro

Ricochet Robots (Note: they really love playing this game, until one player becomes too good)

P.S. The # 1 feature that will indicate a terrible, poorly thought out game design.... 3 players minimum.

P.P.S. House rules can make a game a winner, Me and my buddies modified the forgettable Dune 1984 movie board game into a house favorite, now you can drink the water of life and have a 1 in 6 chance to become the Kwisatz Haderach.... or a 5 in 6 chance of instant death!


"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
Edited by - BigPapaSmurf on 06/26/2013 05:45:40
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ThorGoLucky
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Posted - 06/24/2013 :  15:51:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit ThorGoLucky's Homepage Send ThorGoLucky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ricochet Robots is a great mind-exercising party game. The more, the merrier.

BigPapaSmurf, I disagree with the minimum number of players as a judgement of a game. Like Puerto Rico is a superb game that plays great with 3-5 players, though unofficial 2-player rules have been finagled (the iOS version allows 2 players with interesting mechanics).

Some games have an optimal number of players. Like Battlestar Galactica is just perfect with exactly 5 players.
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sailingsoul
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Posted - 06/24/2013 :  20:40:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Yeah, they've only done 26 games so far. Give 'em a chance to get to Pig Mania (which is now known as Pass the Pigs).

My family has this game. The score sheets are too dang small for my aging eyes.
From what I've seen they have fun playing and doing the shows.

"Pass the pigs" Awwwh that was a mistake in my mind. It is a hoot to play for such a simple game. Two little plastic pigs for dice, scoring pad and set of rules, all in a little box. I think I played it in the early 80's.

PS About the vision, that's what kids are for and they get to do their math.

There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS
Edited by - sailingsoul on 06/24/2013 20:46:03
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moakley
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USA
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Posted - 06/25/2013 :  04:12:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by sailingsoul

Originally posted by Dave W.

Yeah, they've only done 26 games so far. Give 'em a chance to get to Pig Mania (which is now known as Pass the Pigs).

My family has this game. The score sheets are too dang small for my aging eyes.
From what I've seen they have fun playing and doing the shows.

"Pass the pigs" Awwwh that was a mistake in my mind. It is a hoot to play for such a simple game. Two little plastic pigs for dice, scoring pad and set of rules, all in a little box. I think I played it in the early 80's.

PS About the vision, that's what kids are for and they get to do their math.
When I saw the name Pass the Pig I began to wonder whether it could be Pig Mania. Yep, second sentence of the link. My wife and I use to play that a very long time ago. Not for long. It got old rather quickly. Then we tried it with our cats, but that became old quick as well. Double trotters are fine and amusing for while, but apparently not for the cats.

Edited: Forgot to add

Life is good

Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous
Edited by - moakley on 06/25/2013 04:13:13
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Dave W.
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USA
25713 Posts

Posted - 06/25/2013 :  15:10:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Added a few more videos to the "Other Media" section of the OP.

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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 06/26/2013 :  05:36:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by ThorGoLucky

Ricochet Robots is a great mind-exercising party game. The more, the merrier.

BigPapaSmurf, I disagree with the minimum number of players as a judgement of a game. Like Puerto Rico is a superb game that plays great with 3-5 players, though unofficial 2-player rules have been finagled (the iOS version allows 2 players with interesting mechanics).

Some games have an optimal number of players. Like Battlestar Galactica is just perfect with exactly 5 players.



Im not saying that it is impossible to make a good game with 3+ players minimum. But those house rules you mentioned are an indicator of the most important factor in board gaming: 90% of the time only two people will be available or want to play a game. Any designer that ignores that fact is suspect in my mind. I won;t purchase such a game and im the target demo.

How difficult is it for you to get a 5 man game of BG going?

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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BigPapaSmurf
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I should point out that I am a game design Nazi, reasoning with me won't help. Tikal only gets a pass for its poor rulebook and very poor scoring system because it does so many other things well.

Im still working on the final solution to the >2 players minimum problem.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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Dave W.
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USA
25713 Posts

Posted - 06/26/2013 :  06:56:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A two-player game of The Resistance would be pretty short.

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ThorGoLucky
Snuggle Wolf

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Posted - 06/26/2013 :  18:52:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit ThorGoLucky's Homepage Send ThorGoLucky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf

Originally posted by ThorGoLucky

Ricochet Robots is a great mind-exercising party game. The more, the merrier.

BigPapaSmurf, I disagree with the minimum number of players as a judgement of a game. Like Puerto Rico is a superb game that plays great with 3-5 players, though unofficial 2-player rules have been finagled (the iOS version allows 2 players with interesting mechanics).

Some games have an optimal number of players. Like Battlestar Galactica is just perfect with exactly 5 players.



Im not saying that it is impossible to make a good game with 3+ players minimum. But those house rules you mentioned are an indicator of the most important factor in board gaming: 90% of the time only two people will be available or want to play a game. Any designer that ignores that fact is suspect in my mind. I won;t purchase such a game and im the target demo.

How difficult is it for you to get a 5 man game of BG going?

There are many board gamers in my circle of friends, so it's rare that there is only just two of us for long. We play BSG about every month if not sooner.
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