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tomk80
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Hi everybody,
We have a new argument against evolution in the making: http://nation.ittefaq.com/artman/publish/article_8519.shtml. They found a giant!!!
Encountered this one on www.christianforums.com Enjoy. The photo is definitely cool  .
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Maglev
Skeptic Friend
Canada
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 Posted - 05/18/2004 : 22:52:29 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by tomk80
Hi everybody,
We have a new argument against evolution in the making: http://nation.ittefaq.com/artman/publish/article_8519.shtml. They found a giant!!!
Encountered this one on www.christianforums.com Enjoy. The photo is definitely cool .
Now isn't that nice! I hope i'm not the only one to see the irony in finding such a link on a christian web site  I like the image too. I'd really like to see another one, but from a different angle... yeah right. The article sounds dead serious too; I wouldn't mess with them ARAMCO guys that for shur.
I wonder what our friends over at christianforums have to say about this one... I'm just too darn lazy to go check it now  |
Maglev
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filthy
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Posted - 05/19/2004 : 02:47:44 [Permalink]
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The miricles of modern photography, eh? 'Specally digital.
Going by the scale of the people shown excavating the bones, how 'tall' do you think this skeleton might be? Hypotheticly, of course. After having made that calculation, and assuming an average H. sapiens build, extrepolate the weight.
Got it figgered? Good! From there, as it looks to be a 'normal' skeleton, one might ask how it's knees and spine supported all this weight for an average, human life span of the era. And then, assuming an average human metabolism, tell me how a population of these things might have might have kept from starving to death on the hot sands of Saudi. They would have had to be farmers extrodinair, so finally, what archeological evidence is there that a population of such creatures ever tried to live on the hot sands of Saudi?
Is anybody really stupid enough or ill-educated enough, or god-crazed enough to buy that? Well, I suppose so. But you could have some fun with it if it gets taken seriously at Christian Forums.
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chaloobi
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Posted - 05/19/2004 : 05:50:30 [Permalink]
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| I wonder why the Saudi military wants to keep the find secret? If this is proof of the giants written about in the Quran, why would the theocracy of Saudi Arabia not want to proclaim it to the world? It seems like governments inherently want to keep all the most interesting things in the world secret. Usually it's UFOs but I guess giant human skeletons are now inlcuded. |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 05/19/2004 : 09:15:34 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Is anybody really stupid enough or ill-educated enough, or god-crazed enough to buy that? Well, I suppose so. But you could have some fun with it if it gets taken seriously at Christian Forums.
Speaking from a Creationist viewpoint:
Haven't we already come to the conclusion that fossiles can NOT tell anything about the past, since "science" can only be derived from observations in the present?
Besides, those bones does not appear fossilized, so they can not be from before "the flood".
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tomk80
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Posted - 05/19/2004 : 13:04:15 [Permalink]
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| Indeed, I found the links to this one too, only forget to post it here. The creationist discovered by himself that this is a hoax by the way, and was severely reprimanded by some of the evolutionists for not doing some proper research before posting. |
Tom
`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
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Posted - 05/19/2004 : 16:48:52 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
The New Nation ("Bangladesh's Independent News Source") appears to have been taken in by an email hoax. Seems the photo was a part of an October 2002 Photoshop contest at Worth1000.com Hey, another image from that site is an even better "disproof" of evolution.
Thanks for the links Dave. I really liked many of those pics- especially the Hieroglyphs, where the Penguin was the first out-of-place symbol that caught my eye. |
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tomk80
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Posted - 06/15/2004 : 11:11:42 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Starman
Oh no!
The truth is out.
http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s5i4540
this is hilarious |
Tom
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Dave W.
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Dude
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Posted - 06/15/2004 : 14:04:45 [Permalink]
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Stephen Hawking, the brilliant cosmologist and physicist and author of The Universe in a Nutshell was equally shocked.
"People... have... compared... my... work... with... that... of... Newton.... and.... Einstein," Hawking said. "But... it's... all... been... proven... wrong. I... feel... like... such... a... fool."
I have to agree with Dave....
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gm137
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Posted - 06/18/2004 : 06:40:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Haven't we already come to the conclusion that fossiles can NOT tell anything about the past, since "science" can only be derived from observations in the present?
You, sir, may have come that that conclusion, but 'we' (or at least I) haven't. "Science" is not a 'thing' happening at a particular time, rather it is a process by which evidence from both the past and from present observations are used to make logical conclusions about a topic. I can take a fossil you give me, and measure the amount of rubidium and strontium in it, to produce a ratio. By comparing this ratio with earlier observations about the rate at which rubidium decays in to strontium, I can estimate accurately how long that fossil has been around. This is an experiment that you, Binky the clown or anybody could do, and the values from the experiment we obtain would be FACT: no hand-waving inferences, no 'it doesn't fit in with my idea, so...', it's TRUE.
Further experiments are possible to determine more information, but that's not important, compared to my main point: Fossils CAN be used as a source of information about the past. They were formed in the past, and are avaliable now for us to learn from. A simpler example, covering a shorter time scale, is that of forensic investigation. A detective is not usually present when a person is shot, but by combining the hard facts (the bullet, the injuries the victim recieved, the powder residue etc) with experience and information gained previously and during the investigation, the detective has used science to find out what happened in the past.
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 06/18/2004 : 15:06:47 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by gm137
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Haven't we already come to the conclusion that fossiles can NOT tell anything about the past, since "science" can only be derived from observations in the present?
You, sir, may have come that that conclusion, ....
Hehe... try reading some more posts of mine, and you'll realise what side I'm on. |
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Randy
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Posted - 06/18/2004 : 16:10:51 [Permalink]
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Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the recipient who doesn`t get it.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 06/18/2004 : 17:02:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Randy
Sarchasm: The gulf between the author of sarcastic wit and the recipient who doesn`t get it.
hehehe, that's a good one. Why can't I come up with those?
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