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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/12/2005 :  12:15:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Even this page shows the album cover to be "X96," and the British Postal codes make the cover out to be "VNIT." That same page has the ITA1 code saying the cover reads "EYOG." Odd that they don't agree. That page also shows Murray Code, which became International Telegraph Alphabet #2 (ITA2), and the cover also says "X96" in that, too. Huh. I can't find any five-bit coding wherein that album cover reads "X&Y" like it should.

(Oh, ASCII is also known as International Telegraph Alphabet #5.)

Hey, Ricky, how goes the progress on my last offering?

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Ricky
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Posted - 06/16/2005 :  16:28:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
Found a few errors, fixed them, and triple checked.

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Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
Edited by - Ricky on 06/16/2005 19:16:18
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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 06/16/2005 :  20:29:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Well, I decoded the message 20 minutes ago, except for the number of minutes and one other digit (not enough info to get them from context).

However, I've only got the faintest clue as to what rules were used to encode it, as there isn't enough text for a really good sampling. I know that some of the bits are flipped, based on what the first three bits of a symbol are, but that's it. If there's a reason behind it, I can't see it (the two charts I've got - one for 001 symbols and one for 110 symbols {only one symbol starts 000} - are only 34% full).

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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 06/16/2005 :  21:34:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
Yea, I figured it would have been easy for you to figure out that way. But I still had to do it, since I thought using a base of -2 was just too good of an idea to pass up.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/17/2005 :  04:10:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Oh, is that what it was supposed to be? Why is it that not every bit is reversed ('d' comes before 'e', etc.)?

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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 06/17/2005 :  07:16:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
I'm not quite sure what you mean, but I'm fairly certain I did the base -2 right.

For example: 111111111

Starting from the left:

-2^0 = 1
-2^1 = -2
-2^2 = 4
-2^3 = -8
-2^4 = 16
-2^5 = -32
-2^6 = 64
... and so on.

So for example, the first letter, 'W':

110101011

(256) + (-128) + (-32) + (-8) + (-2) + (1) = 87, which is of course W

The one thing I couldn't come up with is an algorithm to do this. I just listed them out in a txt file from 0 to 128. Any idea how you would do this?

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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Dave W.
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USA
26021 Posts

Posted - 06/17/2005 :  09:34:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Not off the top of my head. Maybe I'll think about it a bit.

Oh, here:

59 36 1A 52 55 17 45 52 1B 0E 0F 1C 58 0C 72 3B 0A 08 12 55 0C 69 69 53 1B 07 1A 19 08 44 48 09 17 13 45 54 1C 07 1A 12 0F 1C 54 41 03 0D 1A 01 54 54 1C 0D 45 4C 0D 02 08 4B 4F 09 46 41 41 53 03 19 02 0E 45 49 07 4E 54 1C 0D 45 4C 09 11 00 11 17 5F 4B 14 17 14 04 10 0B 0D 1A 59 53 07 01 13 00 46 41 12 53 49 07 0A 0D 0A 02 15 1D 07 09 47 41 41 4C 0D 02 08 4B 4F 09 46 53 03 11 02 06 16 5D 0E 00 69 69 54 1C 07 1A 12 0F 1C 54 4F 09 46 49 1D 54 54 1C 01 1A 53 4C 0D 12 07 54 54 1D 04 08 49 0C 48 07 18 12 13 13 17 5E 0C 41 0F 0A 44 49 1D 54 48 0D 09 1C 15 01 44 41 41 47 15 17 04 15 54 44 01 04 0D 42 0E 61 2F 0A 44 4E 01 43 0C 4E 01 4F 53 0A 0A 07 11 08 4D 69 6E 4A 4D 41 16 16 13 17 45 4F 09 46 54 1C 09 15 54 54 06 13 0F 1D 1E 04 1D 07 53 49 07 4E 62 23 14 11 0B 1B 54 41 02 17 01 14 0D 00 15 59 55 06 16 01 44 15 18 4F 0B 1D 54 4D 08 08 02 1D 0B 59 4F 1D 52 41 0F 17 0D 1C 01 07 09 47 4C 05 02 0E 45 54 1C 09 15 5A 0E 00 62 23 14 11 0B 1B 54 49 1A 53 4A 1F 06 07 54 41 41 54 06 13 0F 1D 1E 04 1A 00 1A 06 01 4E 53 03 15 06 0A 0F 0F 0A 02 15 1D 06 01 42 0C 4E 01 1B 54 55 06 16 01 44 46 09 1D 52 53 07 1B 1D 13 06 02 4B 0E 62 3B 59 54 1C 0D 45 57 16 18 55 0C 69 6E 51 13 45 47 08 1B 54 41 41 43 0C 1A 05 1C 09 45 4F 09 46 43 0C 0B 01 16 53 69 69 57 16 0F 1A 54 54 1B 4F 54 06 0B 59 4F 1A 01 54 4F 01 4E 59 16 1A 59 0C 42 17 01 54 54 1C 1A 1D 1A 12 0F 48 57 1F 01 0A 0B 48 69 69 57 18 01 49 53 54 42 07 45 41 03 0E 09 45 54 1B 4F 45 0B 0D 0C 0B 01 45 54 1C 0D 16 16 45 4C 0D 13 15 02 45 41 0C 02 1A 1B 1A 07 53 4F 09 46 54 11 1D 0C 58 0C 53 1C 4F 46 09 1D 15 0E 1F 13 45 4D 08 45 49 0F 46 69 69 42 07 06 0C 02 08 45 02 50 17 11 1D 0A 06 0B 1A 56 02 49 07 4E 54 1C 0D 45 4E 0B 04 13 52 46 13 01 01 07 17 4B

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NubiWan
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Posted - 06/24/2005 :  14:09:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send NubiWan a Private Message
Really guys, unless ya've made SFN yer personal Blog, does all ..(?) this have anything to do with "Voyager 1 reaches the edge?" Is this another dividen from Bloody Bush's abuse of power..? Well, then Roo-Roo U 2.

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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 06/24/2005 :  20:23:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Okay, Ricky, let's continue this code stuff over here. If anyone's got any Voyager stuff, please feel free from fear of more hijacking of this thread.

Nubiwan wrote:
quote:
Is this another dividen from Bloody Bush's abuse of power..?
In a way. The division of NASA which controls the Voyager missions has been told they need to cut $20 million of their $70-something-million budget. The Voyagers, at $4.3 million a year, and not offering science directly related to the populace (the same NASA division is handling Earth-orbit satellites to measure global warming, for example), seem to be poised for termination.

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