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chaloobi
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Posted - 09/15/2005 :  06:57:28  Show Profile  Send chaloobi a Yahoo! Message Send chaloobi a Private Message
Has anyone heard any references to the drowning of New Orleans as a manifestation of the Wrath of God? In a story on NPR yesterday they played a radio commercial from Mississippi I think calling on Louisianna and Mississippi to repent or they will feel even more of God's fury. This particular commercial was condemning gambling and suggesting God sent the hurricane to destroy the casinos and punish the people who allowed them in their communities.

And really, this only makes good sense. I've long thought of Marti Gras as an exercise in evil. To indulge in debauchery on the day before Lent is clearly a perversion of that time of holy preparation. And all those evil boobies flashed for the sake of beeds! False gods. Lust. Vanity. So much evil was accumulating in New Orleans it was only a matter of time before God did something about it.

I wonder if our President buys into that? Not only is he very religous but he's also apparently very ignorant -- two key qualities.... I don't know about you, but I think people who think like that shouldn't be given government responsibilities.

-Chaloobi

Dude
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Posted - 09/15/2005 :  10:05:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
quote:
I don't know about you, but I think people who think like that shouldn't be given government responsibilities.


Then you'd have to take away the right to vote from such people.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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chaloobi
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Posted - 09/15/2005 :  10:58:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send chaloobi a Yahoo! Message Send chaloobi a Private Message
In a representative government like ours, you can't police who can hold office based on personal beliefs. Even if someone's personal beliefs are that the constitution should be ammended to outlaw voting or some equally draconian anti-democratic step, you can't prevent them from running for office. You just have to trust that the voting public doesn't want them in office and won't elect them. Unfortunately, our current administration didn't campaign based on what they were planning to do but on what they knew would push the voter's "buttons." So the voters didn't even know what they are voting for because they were deceived and misled. The solution is not to forbid people of certain beliefs from voting or running for office, but to establish some kind of requirement for truth & integrity in campaigning. But I'm not sure that's possible...

-Chaloobi

Edited by - chaloobi on 09/15/2005 12:00:16
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ronnywhite
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Posted - 09/15/2005 :  12:12:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ronnywhite a Private Message
Strange stuff. Also, RE Katrina, Pat Robertson#8217;s ongoing, valuable wisdom and insight continues to impress me, so last night I polished off some religion rants I#8217;ve been throwing together with few a brief accolades for the good reverand (making it an even dozen)#8230; just opinions, take a glance if you like.

http://religion.freewebpage.org/10.htm

Ron White
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filthy
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Posted - 09/15/2005 :  12:38:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Yeah, they're starting to swing from the branchs again.
quote:
Religious conservatives claim Katrina was God's omen, punishment for the United States

In the wake of Hurricane Katrina, some religious conservatives have speculated that the storm was sent by God as an omen or as a punishment for America's alleged sins. Media Matters for America has documented such statements from three religious conservative media figures: Pat Robertson, Hal Lindsey, and Charles Colson.

The usual guff follows and I think that we can expect much more of it as time passes.

It's getting pretty repetitious: something dreadful happens and all of those claiming purity of soul, that only they themselves seem to have, drop down from the trees and start running their mouths, and flinging feces.


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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Stargirl
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Posted - 09/15/2005 :  15:01:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Stargirl a Private Message
Any of these twits ever think that maybe their god is setting up a pattern here.

About ten months after Bush Co. is appointed president in 2000 the US gets hit with 9/11.

Then about ten months after Bush Co. steal the election in 2004 we get hit with Katrina.

I can imagine god sitting there fuming saying “ten… nine… eight… seven… six… five… four… three… two… one…” KABOOM…

Of course these religious idiots wouldn't even consider that any punishment from a god might be caused by anything they did. Or that perhaps their god is trying to warn them that their beloved hero Bush is really the long awaited anti-Christ.


If God did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him - Voltaire
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pleco
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Posted - 09/15/2005 :  15:03:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
I'm sure the innocent children that died in this storm feel the same way...

by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart.
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chaloobi
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Posted - 09/16/2005 :  05:21:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send chaloobi a Yahoo! Message Send chaloobi a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by pleco

I'm sure the innocent children that died in this storm feel the same way...

The good die young to be in the arms of Jesus in heaven.

-Chaloobi

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ronnywhite
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Posted - 09/16/2005 :  07:18:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ronnywhite a Private Message
Seeing the thread still lives, I suppose I should set the matter straight. Robertson, etc. are DEAD RIGHT about Katrina resulting from God getting pissed off at our evil ways, but he has the causative factors all wrong. It goes like this (God works in strange and mysterious ways)... men aren't getting married young, keeping wives pregnant and in the kitchen, and spending their off-time in church praying away, as God wishes- women similarly aren't doing their part. Typically driving SUVs (make lotsa greehouse gasses) to impress a continuous string of single women whom they buy mucho liquor to loosen-up (distillation requires combustion, more greenhouse gasses) not to mention spray colognes, etc. (flourinated hydrocarbons hose ozone layer) causes global warming, increased oceanic temperatures yielded nasty weather patterns causing Katrina. I still haven't figured out how the homosexuals fit into all of this,
but Robertson says they do big time, so it's gotta be so.

Ron White
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Subjectmatter
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Posted - 09/16/2005 :  07:43:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Subjectmatter a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ronnywhite

I still haven't figured out how the homosexuals fit into all of this,
but Robertson says they do big time, so it's gotta be so.



It's quite simple, everyone knows that Hurricanes can only form with the help of large bodies of water, right? And everyone also knows that the bodies of homosexuals are 70% water.

Sooo, the hurricane must ave formed over the bodies of homosexuals...
(They probably died as a result of HIV)

Sibling Atom Bomb of Couteous Debate
Edited by - Subjectmatter on 09/16/2005 07:45:21
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ronnywhite
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Posted - 09/18/2005 :  19:07:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ronnywhite a Private Message
RE 70% water-
Well, that solves the mystery... Gee, I was worried the best someone was going to come up with would be unscientific, or irrational... maybe fleas on their poodles triggering it via the "Butterfly Effect" er something, which might have shaken my Faith in Fundamentalist Science right down to Creationism.

Ron White
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/18/2005 :  19:17:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
The 70% thing is baloney, since everyone is 70% water.

Homosexuals cause hurricanes because all their redecorating makes the factories work harder, producing more greenhouse gasses.

I thought that was obvious.

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
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R.Wreck
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Posted - 09/18/2005 :  20:04:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
I thought it was all that queer swishing adding heat and circular motion to the atmosphere that caused the hurricane.

The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley

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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/18/2005 :  20:20:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
No, it's the Deadheads who spin a lot. Gays may swish, but it's a lateral motion.

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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 09/19/2005 :  07:32:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

No, it's the Deadheads who spin a lot. Gays may swish, but it's a lateral motion.



Nope, sorry. It's the metal heads watching Headbanger's Ball.

The long hair adds to the motion.


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filthy
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Posted - 09/19/2005 :  07:59:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Naw. It's the flatulence and vitriol from this outfit that are directly responsible for global warming. God has a sick sense of humor and loves to see them perform, so if tossing out a few tsunamis and hurricanes will get them on stage and raving, then tsunamis and hurricanes is what we'll get.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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