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BigPapaSmurf
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 Posted - 01/25/2006 : 11:18:43
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http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/crackpot.html
I dont have the time to review the whole shebang, but I can tell right off the bat that there is 90 points for #36 and #37, not a good start. (Low score is better)
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40 points for claiming that when your theory is finally appreciated, present-day science will be seen for the sham it truly is. (30 more points for fantasizing about show trials in which scientists who mocked your theories will be forced to recant.)
50 points for claiming you have a revolutionary theory but giving no concrete testable predictions.
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 01/25/2006 : 15:58:21 [Permalink]
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5. 5 points for each such statement that is adhered to despite careful correction.
Does anyone want to start counting? Check.
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11. 10 points for beginning the description of your theory by saying how long you have been working on it.
While Mozina didn't actuall start with this, it has been brought up several times. Check.
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14. 10 points for each new term you invent and use without properly defining it.
"Stratification layer". Check.
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22. 20 points for each favorable comparison of yourself to Newton or claim that classical mechanics is fundamentally misguided (without good evidence).
That the Sun's density cannot be calculated without taking "dark matter" into account definitly qualifies as a fundamental step away from classical mechanics. Check.
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Dave W.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/25/2006 : 18:51:16 [Permalink]
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By the way, Mozina has garnered himself many points with this:7. 5 points for each word in all capital letters (except for those with defective keyboards). Too bad. |
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GeeMack
SFN Regular
USA
1093 Posts |
Posted - 01/25/2006 : 22:40:10 [Permalink]
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3. 2 points for every statement that is clearly vacuous. "Sure, the "relative" density is density we use to launch satellites and to compute current calculations that allow us to move around in our solar system RELATIVE to movements of our solar system."17. 10 points for arguing that while a current well-established theory predicts phenomena correctly, it doesn't explain "why" they occur, or fails to provide a "mechanism". "I've answered as many questions as I can, and far more than most solar scientists can offer you as it relates to the cause of sunsposts, the suns 11 year active cycle, the layouts and arrangements of plasma in the atmosphere, etc."
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 01/26/2006 : 06:24:32 [Permalink]
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| Fantastic Quackery Index Dave, theres a lot of negative choices, I bet MM would get at least 30 points over there as well. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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GeeMack
SFN Regular
USA
1093 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2006 : 08:26:46 [Permalink]
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I think "cutting edge of a paradigm shift" and "blow NASA's model out of the water" should be considered synonymous, and I'll award Mozina another well deserved 10 points here...19. 10 points for claiming that your work is on the cutting edge of a "paradigm shift". "The issue of mass separation will be front and center of the debate once the STEREO data becomes available. At that point I 'expect' to find the transitional region is located under the photosphere which would blow NASA's model out of the water."
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 01/26/2006 : 08:38:48 [Permalink]
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"The issue of mass separation will be front and center of the debate once the STEREO data becomes available. At that point I 'expect' to find the transitional region is located under the photosphere which would blow NASA's model out of the water."
I think that qualifies under #36, as in the first post.
The 'paradigm shift' option if for people who hear a term like that then use it to sound educated. Like George Bush using Latin. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
4826 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2006 : 08:40:06 [Permalink]
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| I've got 162 points total so far. |
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GeeMack
SFN Regular
USA
1093 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2006 : 10:35:18 [Permalink]
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3. 2 points for every statement that is clearly vacuous. I said, "Bottom line, if the surface isn't solid, it isn't solid. So what material is it?"
To which Mozina replied, "It is solid."
Vacuous? You bet. 
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/26/2006 : 10:48:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
I've got 162 points total so far.
How many all-caps words did you estimate into that (assuming you didn't actually count 'em)? |
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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4826 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2006 : 13:26:54 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
I've got 162 points total so far.
How many all-caps words did you estimate into that (assuming you didn't actually count 'em)?
Just one, but I didn't apply the -5 starting point because I have faith in the future posts of Mr. Mozina. |
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GeeMack
SFN Regular
USA
1093 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2006 : 14:07:43 [Permalink]
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7. 5 points for each word in all capital letters (except for those with defective keyboards). [20 points]
15. 10 points for each statement along the lines of "I'm not good at math, but my theory is conceptually right, so all I need is for someone to express it in terms of equations". "Instead of using or considering anything I presented and could present, I was instead *TOLD* to do OOM calcs on *ONLY TWO* images (so they woulndn't have to consider what Yohkoh or Rhessi see). Better yet, I was given a 'two parter' that included the NEED to figure out light penetration through plasma, not one of my 'stronger' suits at the moment."
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GeeMack
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1093 Posts |
Posted - 01/26/2006 : 20:07:46 [Permalink]
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7. 5 points for each word in all capital letters (except for those with defective keyboards). [10 points]
34. 40 points for claiming that the "scientific establishment" is engaged in a "conspiracy" to prevent your work from gaining its well-deserved fame, or suchlike. "Well, you're right about the last part, this issue is not related to a single individual, it's related to a set assumption that are made by a LOT (probably all) of the folks that study heliosiesmology today. Specifically there is an ASSUMPTION that there is nothing solid under the photosphere."
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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4826 Posts |
Posted - 01/27/2006 : 06:17:05 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by GeeMack
7. 5 points for each word in all capital letters (except for those with defective keyboards). [10 points]
34. 40 points for claiming that the "scientific establishment" is engaged in a "conspiracy" to prevent your work from gaining its well-deserved fame, or suchlike. "Well, you're right about the last part, this issue is not related to a single individual, it's related to a set assumption that are made by a LOT (probably all) of the folks that study heliosiesmology today. Specifically there is an ASSUMPTION that there is nothing solid under the photosphere."
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Includes -5 start point and all caps pointed out here. |
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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4826 Posts |
Posted - 01/27/2006 : 08:40:16 [Permalink]
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OK, I've gone through the previous 2 threads to get a more accurate picture. I've take into account the stuff posted here on the third thread as I don't want to ding him on multiple of the same majors.
From First thread - 1,164
From Second thread - 3,035
From third thread thus far - 187
Total - 4,386
The first two threads allone have a combined unnecessary caps total of 760. I have included the -5 baseline in it. I have the details saved off to my hard drive.
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