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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
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Posted - 10/02/2006 :  18:16:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by verlch
No, I've heard it mentioned before about lot 666 being the capital building. The Washington monument being 555 ft tall, with 110 feet in the ground, for a 666 ft. tall building.

So basically symbolism is everywhere, and to me, a Christian it means something.
How dense are you? Seriously. From the website you linked:
quote:
If you Google for "washington monument" height, the first listing you see is for a page about the monument at greatbuildings.com . Note that the page mentions that the monument has a base of 55 feet and a height of 555 feet, in keeping with what they call the "standard Egyptian proportion of 10:1 height to base". If you continue your search, you will see that the actual height is 555.5 feet.

Googling for "washington monument" foundation depth we see several sites that bear the figure 36 feet 10 inches. 555 + 36 is 591, so how is it that so many people claim that the monument is 666 feet tall? Well first of all, 555 feet is 6660 inches, and as we know, many people just can't keep fact straight.

Consider this from http://www.geocities.com/baja/5692/:

"The Washington Monument is 555 feet in visible height (6,660 inches). However tourist guides to the obelisk tell us that 20% of its overall height forms part of the foundations in order to stabilise the monument. Thus the true height of the obelisk is 666 feet, accurately reflecting the accursed number of the forthcoming antichrist leader of the New World Order, Lucifer."

So tourist guides were telling the story about a 20% foundation, and it has been picked up from there?

Looking back at the site dedicated to the Monument History that was mentioned earlier, we see that the location of the monument was relocated "because of the swamplike nature of the ground at the planned cross-axis of the White House and the U. S. Capitol". Speaking of the new location, the author writes:

"The blocks were set in a mixture of lime mortar and cement to form a stepped-up truncated pyramid 80 feet square at the base. The foundation extended 7 feet, 8 inches below ground, and 15 feet, 8 inches above. However, it proved to be incapable of supporting the projected height and weight of the monument and was later modified when the project was completed by the Army engineers."

You will recall that the original position chosen by L'Enfant, was still located under water as late as 1820, so it would be an understatement to describe it as being "swamp-like" in the 1840's. If the original position was too swampy, how do you imagine that you could dig down 111 feet, just 120 yards away? Imagine digging a pit 111x80 feet in the 1840's. Any way, we know that the foundation was not 20% of 555 feet but is 36'10".
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Paulos23
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Posted - 10/02/2006 :  21:14:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Paulos23's Homepage Send Paulos23 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by verlch

quote:
Originally posted by Paulos23

quote:
Originally posted by verlch

quote:
Originally posted by Cuneiformist

It's hilarious that you cite this and ask us to explain it. Since you missed it, the site actually disproves all the lame 666 conspiracy junk you believe in! Your reading comprehension skills are so poor that you failed to see it!

(Hint: "Personally, I find it difficult to believe that any number or geometric figure can be inherently evil.")





No, I've heard it mentioned before about lot 666 being the capital building. The Washington monument being 555 ft tall, with 110 feet in the ground, for a 666 ft. tall building.

So basically symbolism is everywhere, and to me, a Christian it means something.



And again V you have the wrong number. 616 is what you need to be looking for. No wonder Satan is running lose in the world, your looking in the wrong place!



What are you talking about?



You didn't check my link in my first post did you? Well here it is again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast

There are old texts that they have found where the number of the beast is not 666 but 616 or 655. Guess the Devil has a good misinformation department.

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Dude
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Posted - 10/02/2006 :  22:20:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
V said:
quote:
The Washington monument being 555 ft tall, with 110 feet in the ground, for a 666 ft. tall building.



555 + 110 = 666?

Interesting.


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verlch
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Posted - 10/03/2006 :  02:10:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send verlch an AOL message Send verlch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

V said:
quote:
The Washington monument being 555 ft tall, with 110 feet in the ground, for a 666 ft. tall building.



555 + 110 = 666?

Interesting.





I googled 666 just now, and came up with Target.com. Seems they are advertising with the google popups on the side of the screen.

666 Products
666 products Online.
Shop Target.com
www.Target.com

That just doesn't happen by accident.

http://www.google.com/search?q=666+products&hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-36,GGLJ:en&start=10&sa=N

http://www.target.com/gp/browse.html/601-7391566-9577755?node=13458921&AFID=Google&LNM=666_Products&ref=tgt_adv_XSGT1592

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filthy
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Posted - 10/03/2006 :  02:58:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't get it, V. I opened your links and saw nothing that related to 666. Que, as they say, pasa?

I did see something related to soy beans in India and an outfit selling lesbian dildos, but beyond that, not much of interest.

Come to think of it, I don't recall anything seeing anything anywhere for sale that's along these lines. I suspect that, unlike the Darwin Fish, 666 and related items are just not much of a seller.

Some fear the number, some do not fear the number and think the whole thing is silly, and the rest don't seem to much care. That makes for a product buried in shelf dust.




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pleco
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Posted - 10/03/2006 :  05:13:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just googled 666, and all I saw were a bunch of ignorant assholes lying to people about the end of the world. At least that was on page one. And none of the adverts were selling anything except "The Omen" DVD. That just doesn't happen by accident.

Probably the devil made the google search different for me without me asking Him. The devil loves to take care of His flock.

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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/03/2006 :  05:35:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by verlch

quote:
Originally posted by Cuneiformist

It's hilarious that you cite this and ask us to explain it. Since you missed it, the site actually disproves all the lame 666 conspiracy junk you believe in! Your reading comprehension skills are so poor that you failed to see it!

(Hint: "Personally, I find it difficult to believe that any number or geometric figure can be inherently evil.")





No, I've heard it mentioned before about lot 666 being the capital building. The Washington monument being 555 ft tall, with 110 feet in the ground, for a 666 ft. tall building.

So basically symbolism is everywhere, and to me, a Christian it means something.



Ummmmm. V-man. 555+110 = 665.

Sorry to break that to you. Simple math's a bitch, eh?

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Original_Intent
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USA
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Posted - 10/03/2006 :  05:48:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Original_Intent a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by verlch

quote:
Originally posted by Dude

V said:
quote:
The Washington monument being 555 ft tall, with 110 feet in the ground, for a 666 ft. tall building.



555 + 110 = 666?

Interesting.





I googled 666 just now, and came up with Target.com. Seems they are advertising with the google popups on the side of the screen.

666 Products
666 products Online.
Shop Target.com
www.Target.com

That just doesn't happen by accident.

http://www.google.com/search?q=666+products&hl=en&lr=&rls=GGLJ,GGLJ:2006-36,GGLJ:en&start=10&sa=N

http://www.target.com/gp/browse.html/601-7391566-9577755?node=13458921&AFID=Google&LNM=666_Products&ref=tgt_adv_XSGT1592



That is some great marketing, especially with the current 666 craze...

Peace
Joe
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2006 :  15:54:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by HalfMooner

V_D wrote:
quote:
Ummmmm. V-man. 555+110 = 665.

Sorry to break that to you. Simple math's a bitch, eh?
But there's the ancient birthday-spanking tradition, something I always felt was obviously Satanic. At the end the birthday boy's spanking, with one swat administered per year of age, there's the bonus swat: "And one to grow on!"

So: 555 +110 +1 = 666




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