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Neurosis
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Posted - 02/28/2007 :  00:53:44  Show Profile  Send Neurosis an AOL message Send Neurosis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here is a fairly interesting site with one guys compiling of hrrendous acts of god recorded in the bible. Not the most aesthetically pleasing but navigatable.

http://www.thegodmurders.com/

Facts! Pssh, you can prove anything even remotely true with facts.
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[God] is an infinite nothing from nowhere with less power over our universe than the secretary of agriculture.
- Prof. Frink

Lisa: Yes, but wouldn't you rather know the truth than to delude yourself for happiness?
Marge: Well... um.... [goes outside to jump on tampoline with Homer.]

Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 02/28/2007 :  22:53:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Neurosis

Here is a fairly interesting site with one guys compiling of hrrendous acts of god recorded in the bible. Not the most aesthetically pleasing but navigatable.

http://www.thegodmurders.com/



I've known of the God murders before the site came out.

God killing children when they call his prophet baldy.

God annalilating two towns because there weren't 10 righteous souls in them. Granted the sins of the town were great culminating in the attempted rape of angels of God, but really......

God killed a lot of people in the OT. The angry hill god of the OT. Not the hands offish god of the NT.

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

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smoke
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Posted - 02/28/2007 :  23:41:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit smoke's Homepage Send smoke a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What you blame God for was done by these people's sins. For example, people in ancient times such as the Amorites were known for incest, child-rape, etc. Furthermore, they were only killing their neighbors, in particular the Jews whom they hated the most. If anything, their annihilation probably saved many more lives than it took.

He does not answer when men cry out because of the arrogance of the wicked. Indeed, God does not listen to their empty plea; the Almighty pays no attention to it.

Job 35:12-13
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Starman
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Posted - 03/01/2007 :  00:25:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by smoke

What you blame God for was done by these people's sins. For example, people in ancient times such as the Amorites were known for incest, child-rape, etc. Furthermore, they were only killing their neighbors, in particular the Jews whom they hated the most. If anything, their annihilation probably saved many more lives than it took.

Ok, do you have any support for that assertion?
Independent preferably?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amorites

"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
-- Terry Jones
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Neurosis
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Posted - 03/01/2007 :  00:28:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Neurosis an AOL message Send Neurosis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by smoke

What you blame God for was done by these people's sins. For example, people in ancient times such as the Amorites were known for incest, child-rape, etc. Furthermore, they were only killing their neighbors, in particular the Jews whom they hated the most. If anything, their annihilation probably saved many more lives than it took.



Moses' father Amram was married to his aunt, that is incest.

Also, incest was not considered wrong, even more so, it was proscribed as a brother was to marry his brother's wife if the brother fell in order to bear him children.

And, all marriage during this time I would call child rape in a sense, as young tweenage girls were married away to older men.

You might also note that there is no evidence that any of those people committed sins of any kind, especially the children. The women virgins were always spared (I wonder why?) so were they then sinless but the males total evil?

And of course, god made up those rules in the first place. He appears specifically to the Jews (who he reprimands several times per year for being sinners but never wipes out). Certainly, god could have come down as a pillar of smoke before the Amorites and simply alerted them to their sins, rather than send a Jewish army to kill them all, including their asses and children and wives, and other property.

Facts! Pssh, you can prove anything even remotely true with facts.
- Homer Simpson

[God] is an infinite nothing from nowhere with less power over our universe than the secretary of agriculture.
- Prof. Frink

Lisa: Yes, but wouldn't you rather know the truth than to delude yourself for happiness?
Marge: Well... um.... [goes outside to jump on tampoline with Homer.]
Edited by - Neurosis on 03/01/2007 00:32:28
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 03/01/2007 :  00:39:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Come on, guys. Smoke only has a handful of apologetic answers he was taught to repeat in Sunday school, and if you keep demolishing them like this, he might have to start thinking for himself.

Nah, my guess is he'll start from the beginning and repeat everything all over again as if you never said anything. Carry on.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
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Neurosis
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Posted - 03/01/2007 :  00:51:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Neurosis an AOL message Send Neurosis a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

quote:
Originally posted by Neurosis

Here is a fairly interesting site with one guys compiling of hrrendous acts of god recorded in the bible. Not the most aesthetically pleasing but navigatable.

http://www.thegodmurders.com/



I've known of the God murders before the site came out.

God killing children when they call his prophet baldy.

God annalilating two towns because there weren't 10 righteous souls in them. Granted the sins of the town were great culminating in the attempted rape of angels of God, but really......

God killed a lot of people in the OT. The angry hill god of the OT. Not the hands offish god of the NT.




Me too. I have read the bible 5 times. The Koran (english) and Book of Mormon and some of Dyanetics.

Jesus is not hand offish either. Modern Christians pretend that, but it is not true. There are glaring inconsistencies between god and Jesus, but also a few common traits. This is because man can only make gods in man's image for man cannot have intimate knowledge of anything else.

Facts! Pssh, you can prove anything even remotely true with facts.
- Homer Simpson

[God] is an infinite nothing from nowhere with less power over our universe than the secretary of agriculture.
- Prof. Frink

Lisa: Yes, but wouldn't you rather know the truth than to delude yourself for happiness?
Marge: Well... um.... [goes outside to jump on tampoline with Homer.]
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Dave W.
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Posted - 03/01/2007 :  11:13:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by smoke

What you blame God for was done by these people's sins.
God created sin, just like he created everything else.

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Why not question something for a change?
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 03/01/2007 :  20:40:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by smoke

What you blame God for was done by these people's sins. For example, people in ancient times such as the Amorites were known for incest, child-rape, etc. Furthermore, they were only killing their neighbors, in particular the Jews whom they hated the most. If anything, their annihilation probably saved many more lives than it took.



Not blaming, just pointing out the killings of an angry and jealous god of the OT.

Hey, if God did it, genocide must be OK.

And the bit about the Amorites being child rapists... you got a chapter and verse on that one? The Bible I got indicates that they were ordered destroyed because of their warmaking ways and treaty breaking violence.

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

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moakley
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Posted - 03/02/2007 :  05:20:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

quote:
Originally posted by smoke

What you blame God for was done by these people's sins.
God created sin, just like he created everything else.

Dave what you said seems harmless enough, but for the past 5 minutes I have not been able to get this song out of my head.

Life is good

Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous
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beskeptigal
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Posted - 03/06/2007 :  03:37:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by smoke

What you blame God for was done by these people's sins. For example, people in ancient times such as the Amorites were known for incest, child-rape, etc. Furthermore, they were only killing their neighbors, in particular the Jews whom they hated the most. If anything, their annihilation probably saved many more lives than it took.

Then again, they could have just had land the Jews wanted. Wouldn't be the first time someone claimed their god gave them the right to take someone else's land.







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