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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
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Posted - 04/04/2007 :  20:02:23  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Poll Question:
In your opinion, the proper skeptical response to the statement, "I have been abducted by aliens and I know they are real," is what?

Choices:
That's ridiculous. Have you considered the possibility that you're delusional?
Perhaps there are other explanations for what you experienced that you haven't considered.
You're making a positive claim and you must now back it up with something other than anecdotal evide
So, when did you stop taking your meds?
Interesting. Please elaborate.
Have you heard of a guy named James Randi?
Other (please tell us more).

(Anonymous Vote)

H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard

USA
4574 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  20:07:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If the girl is hot: "Me too!"


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
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Dave W.
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USA
26007 Posts

Posted - 04/04/2007 :  20:08:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
By the way, the idea for this one was Kil's.

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 04/04/2007 :  20:51:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I never met anyone who claimed to be a UFO abductee, though I have met a number of people who claimed to have been anally probed. (I did not ask for evdience!)



Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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Vegeta
Skeptic Friend

United Kingdom
238 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2007 :  03:20:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Vegeta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm not sure, but I think its a bit wrong to automatically accuse them of lying or being crazy. If you pick option 5 It should become apparent if they are telling the truth, a lie, or what they THINK is the truth without being too confrontational.

What are you looking at? Haven't you ever seen a pink shirt before?

"I was asked if I would do a similar sketch but focusing on the shortcomings of Islam rather than Christianity. I said, 'No, no I wouldn't. I may be an atheist but I'm not stupid.'" - Steward Lee
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

USA
5310 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2007 :  08:35:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Depends on the circumstances. If I meet someone on the street, and they don't say, "What do you think about that?," depending on how much time one has, the best response is "Oh, really", and keep on walking, or "Oh, really, please do go on" if I feel like wasting time.

If they ask me, or if they come on a discussion board, I'm liable to ask them to elaborate to see if I can see where the conversation ought to go from there.

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter



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McQ
Skeptic Friend

USA
258 Posts

Posted - 04/05/2007 :  12:46:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send McQ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My vote echoed my real life experience with an "abductee". A woman I knew fairly well (this is now more than 15 years ago) told me that she AND her daughter had both been abducted and tested medically, by extraterrestrials.

I was obviously shocked. This woman was "normal" in every way. Great person, excellent sense of humor, good job, stable family life, etc. But she was absolutely serious about the abduction. My response was to just let her talk about it and gather information from her without supporting or negating her belief. At one point, she did ask my opinion of it, and asked if I thought she was crazy.

I do not think she is or was mentally ill, but I do believe that she experienced something along the lines of a hypnagogic or hypnopompic state. I did suggest that she talk with a licensed psychologist or even a psychiatrist or neurologist to try and determine if she was having any physiological issues. Unfortunately, she went to an unlicensed "therapist" who eagerly reinforced and expanded her experiences.

I don't live in that area any longer, so I never found out any more from her. I sure hope she found a legit psychologist though, because this other idiot had her and her daughter convinced of the alien abduction crap.

Elvis didn't do no drugs!
--Penn Gillette
Edited by - McQ on 04/05/2007 12:49:37
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