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dmayer76
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Posted - 05/07/2007 :  19:57:43  Show Profile Send dmayer76 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm just waiting for this to be posted. The 9-11 deniars think that Israel and American Jews played a pivotal role in 9-11...if not carrying it out completaly on their own.

Larry Silverstein is a Jew. Many Neo-Cons are Jews. For 9-11 Deniars, this is just too coincidental. Somehow, the Jews must have pulled it off.

5 Dancing Israelis......hundreds of Israeli art students..its all coming.

Better to pre-empt the b.s. before they start on their own terms.

HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2007 :  00:23:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Do you also deny the Holocaust?


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 05/08/2007 :  00:31:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
half said:
quote:
Do you also deny the Holocaust?


He has some grammar issues, and his posting isn't very clear... but I think he is not on the side of the nut-bags. He appears to be saying that these new 9/11 whack-jobs we have posting will soon be followed by the anti-Semitic ones who will try to blame 9/11 on the Jews.

I'm pretty sure he isn't advocating any of the conspiracies.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

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The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2007 :  00:45:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

half said:
quote:
Do you also deny the Holocaust?


He has some grammar issues, and his posting isn't very clear... but I think he is not on the side of the nut-bags. He appears to be saying that these new 9/11 whack-jobs we have posting will soon be followed by the anti-Semitic ones who will try to blame 9/11 on the Jews.

I'm pretty sure he isn't advocating any of the conspiracies.



Okay, Dude, that's possible, maybe reasonable. I admit to being confused by some of these posts. Seemed to me that two of dmeyer76's posts were written in a sly, backhanded manner as though it were someone else's idea, alluding to Jews being responsible for 9/11, just as a way of introducing the lie. But your interpretation makes sense, too. I'm still unsure.

Do look at this post by dmeyer76, though.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2007 :  01:07:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
He could just be irritated by the conspiracy retards. That post is just him, apparently, using hypoerbole to make a point.

Until he starts posting in favor of the conspiracy garbage, lets give him the benefit of the doubt.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 05/08/2007 :  01:45:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How about I just ask him?

dmeyer76, so far, you're the only one to mention the idea of blaming Jewry for 9/11 here. Were you (awkwardly) warning against others who blame "the Jews" for 9/11, or were you (slyly) trying to inject a new Blood Libel here yourself?


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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JohnOAS
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Australia
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Posted - 05/08/2007 :  04:27:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit JohnOAS's Homepage Send JohnOAS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dude
He has some grammar issues, and his posting isn't very clear... but I think he is not on the side of the nut-bags. He appears to be saying that these new 9/11 whack-jobs we have posting will soon be followed by the anti-Semitic ones who will try to blame 9/11 on the Jews.

I'm pretty sure he isn't advocating any of the conspiracies.

Exactly the picture I got, Dude. It's funny that a couple of people took it the opposite way.

John's just this guy, you know.
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dmayer76
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Posted - 05/08/2007 :  14:58:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send dmayer76 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was trying to pre-empt their posting about Jews and 9-11. First they start talking about wtc 7, no plane at the pentagon, the norad stand down, etc. Then, once they have sucked people in, they start going on about the "New World Order", Zionists, Freemasons, chemtrails, etc etc.

It is best to know your enemy.
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j911ob
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223 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2007 :  15:05:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send j911ob a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dmayer76

I was trying to pre-empt their posting about Jews and 9-11. First they start talking about wtc 7, no plane at the pentagon, the norad stand down, etc. Then, once they have sucked people in, they start going on about the "New World Order", Zionists, Freemasons, chemtrails, etc etc.

It is best to know your enemy.



Just for everyones info. Dmayer is an infamous troll at LC call ed oliver. He has had 52 sock puppets banned there. I am not exagerrating. He himself admits to 52 and thats a conservative figure.

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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 05/08/2007 :  17:56:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dmayer76

I was trying to pre-empt their posting about Jews and 9-11. First they start talking about wtc 7, no plane at the pentagon, the norad stand down, etc. Then, once they have sucked people in, they start going on about the "New World Order", Zionists, Freemasons, chemtrails, etc etc.

It is best to know your enemy.

Thank you for clarifying this, dmayer76. I humbly apologize for erroneously thinking you were doing the opposite of warning us. Seems others here read you more clearly than I did.

Since we may be stuck with them for a bit, could you clue us in some more about these guys? Particularly (since I already stuck my neck out on the subject) their anti-Semitism, which they deny?






Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 05/08/2007 17:59:02
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dmayer76
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Posted - 05/08/2007 :  17:56:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send dmayer76 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No, j911ob, I am not Oliver. Oliver is a friend of mine. We do get a good laugh at reading the insane posts at LC though. And at JREF, we get an even better laugh, as we share the non-sense and self-defeating writings of "da truthers". I haven't posted anything at LC in months. I decided its really not worth my time debating idiots. I now prefer to be a silent witness to their nuttyness. Your crazy theories are debunked by your outlandish conspiratorial and bigoted ideas. It makes our job...sooo much easier. Please, keep it up.

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dmayer76
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Posted - 05/08/2007 :  18:01:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send dmayer76 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Halfmoon- I don't frequently call people insane, but I do believe that several of the 9-11 truther internet forum guys are indeed, insane. They are also flaming bigots. The Loose Change forum's "New World Order" section is chock full of anti-semitic posts, with nothing to do with 9-11..or even Zionism. They think Zionism is a secret conspiracy to dominate the Earth. Some argue that no planes hit the WTC (it was all CGI). Most argue that the NIST engineers were either paid off, or are actually secret agents. They also think that NBC, CBS, CNN, and BBC, had foreknowledge of the attacks and read from a "script" as they described the events. I suggest you go to the conspiracy forum at www.randi.org to read all about them.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2007 :  18:32:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dmayer76

Halfmoon- I don't frequently call people insane, but I do believe that several of the 9-11 truther internet forum guys are indeed, insane. They are also flaming bigots. The Loose Change forum's "New World Order" section is chock full of anti-semitic posts, with nothing to do with 9-11..or even Zionism. They think Zionism is a secret conspiracy to dominate the Earth. Some argue that no planes hit the WTC (it was all CGI). Most argue that the NIST engineers were either paid off, or are actually secret agents. They also think that NBC, CBS, CNN, and BBC, had foreknowledge of the attacks and read from a "script" as they described the events. I suggest you go to the conspiracy forum at www.randi.org to read all about them.

Oh, I agree with you about the insanity.

For starters, pure idiocy alone cannot account for someone able to swallow an absurd hoax about a bomb truck with a mural of the 9/11 attacks painted on it. Stupidity by itself normally causes errors in thinking here and there, not in this grandly systematic manner. Clearly some nasty metaphorical demons are at work. Delusion and its brother, Bigotry, better explain such nonsense.

Thank you, I will indeed investigate at Randi's site.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Edited by - HalfMooner on 05/08/2007 18:34:40
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
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Posted - 05/09/2007 :  08:08:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have been thinking, for a while now, of doing a piece on the thinking that drives a person to coming up with or accepting conspiracy theories almost without question. It seems to me that there are plenty of reasons to mistrust certain authorities. Especially, those in authority who have some power over us. I mean, you don't have to be paranoid to understand that the current administration hoodwinked most of the country, including both houses of congress and a credulous media into accepting a stupid war. And that really was a conspiracy to control the information that we received.

It may only be a small step after such deceptions to give credence to larger and less likely (at least to those who do not default to critical thinking) conspiracies. If you accept the premise that we are constantly being lied to, and there is much evidence to support that, how does the lay-person know where to draw the line between the credible and the incredible? I have said before that crazy is only a matter of degree.

Conspiracy theories also empower those who subscribe to them. They seem to make sense of the senseless, which in turn means that those who control us loose power over us by being exposed for who they really are and what they have allegedly done. And that is a strong enticement if you feel powerless to change those forces, real or imagined.

There is also a cult like aspect to all of this that I will delve into later.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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j911ob
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Posted - 05/09/2007 :  08:35:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send j911ob a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dmayer76

Halfmoon- I don't frequently call people insane, but I do believe that several of the 9-11 truther internet forum guys are indeed, insane. They are also flaming bigots. The Loose Change forum's "New World Order" section is chock full of anti-semitic posts, with nothing to do with 9-11..or even Zionism. They think Zionism is a secret conspiracy to dominate the Earth. Some argue that no planes hit the WTC (it was all CGI). Most argue that the NIST engineers were either paid off, or are actually secret agents. They also think that NBC, CBS, CNN, and BBC, had foreknowledge of the attacks and read from a "script" as they described the events. I suggest you go to the conspiracy forum at www.randi.org to read all about them.




What a liar you are! You forgot to mention that no plane theories have been banned at LC. You also forgot to mention that loose change pulled out of the accountability conference to distance themselves from any anti semitism. The fact that you followed us here to tell lies shows just what a threat we are.

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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
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Posted - 05/09/2007 :  08:38:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by j911ob

The fact that you followed us here to tell lies shows just what a threat we are.
A threat to dmayer76 perhaps.

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
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