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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 07/10/2007 :  20:50:11  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Betty Perry says, "I never thought they would ever do anything like that to a person that is 70 years old. I've never bothered anybody, I've never hurt anybody."

Epidemic



This 70 year old woman arrested for not watering this:



You laugh at the Gnome now. You will remember when you are arrested for not watering your lawn, or maybe not enough air in your car tires.


What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell

HalfMooner
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Posted - 07/10/2007 :  21:09:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
We will always have the Gnome to laugh at, thank you.

By the way, being old doesn't make a person right. As people keep telling me.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 07/10/2007 21:10:49
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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 07/10/2007 :  22:06:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That's when the officer tried to handcuff her for refusing to give her name and resisting the ticket. She tripped on the steps, scraping up her nose and elbows, leaving blood on her door, her porch and her clothes.


Do you think they gave her a ticket for bleeding on the policeman?



Good thing it was not a mob of bicycle riders. Then they would have needed SWAT and tear gas!


What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 07/11/2007 :  06:53:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, she wasn't arrested for not watering her lawn, she was arrested for "refusing to give her name and resisting the ticket." And given that she said, "I've never had any experience before with the law, ever in my life," this situation appears to be a particularly inconvenient mix (for all concerned) of one policeman's zeal and one old woman's ignorance of law-enforcement procedure.

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Kil
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Posted - 07/11/2007 :  07:15:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Well, she wasn't arrested for not watering her lawn, she was arrested for "refusing to give her name and resisting the ticket." And given that she said, "I've never had any experience before with the law, ever in my life," this situation appears to be a particularly inconvenient mix (for all concerned) of one policeman's zeal and one old woman's ignorance of law-enforcement procedure.
I think I smell a GAS (Grasping at Straws) award nomination. Jerome is just angy that his last nomination was hosed by our serverů


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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 07/11/2007 :  07:34:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Don't ever say no when the police tell you do to something. You better do what they tell you no matter what, even if you don't have anybody to help you. You've got to do what they tell you or they will hurt you."


You will feel the wrath of the state if you do not submit!


What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 07/11/2007 :  08:36:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
You will feel the wrath of the state if you do not submit!
More like "there are consequences if you break the law."

Unless you work for the Bush Administration, of course.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
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Dave W.
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Posted - 07/11/2007 :  08:36:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME

You will feel the wrath of the state if you do not submit!
At least until the state's boss finds out about it, puts the state on administrative leave and drops all the charges.

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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 07/11/2007 :  19:03:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by H. Humbert

Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
You will feel the wrath of the state if you do not submit!
More like "there are consequences if you break the law."

Unless you work for the Bush Administration, of course.





Making a 70 year old woman bleed for not watering the lawn?


What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 07/12/2007 :  17:19:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm going to post a link to relevant case law in this matter. Since she physically resisted, she got roughed up.

http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court=US&navby=case&vol=000&invol=03-5554

Thanks,

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 07/13/2007 :  21:54:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

I'm going to post a link to relevant case law in this matter. Since she physically resisted, she got roughed up.

Thanks,



Would you have licked the boots of the officer?

A 70 year old woman physically resisted? Are you kidding?






What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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Ricky
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Posted - 07/13/2007 :  22:27:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message  Reply with Quote

A 70 year old woman physically resisted? Are you kidding?


So you won't even consider the possibility?

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 07/13/2007 :  22:38:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Ricky


A 70 year old woman physically resisted? Are you kidding?


So you won't even consider the possibility?


Sure, but the statements of the police department and the lady do not give any reason to believe she physically resisted getting a ticket for not watering her lawn.


What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 07/14/2007 :  08:18:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME

Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

I'm going to post a link to relevant case law in this matter. Since she physically resisted, she got roughed up.

Thanks,



Would you have licked the boots of the officer?

A 70 year old woman physically resisted? Are you kidding?








Fallacious appeal to pity.

No, I'm not kidding.

Gene Snow is 70 and he's still faster than most 20-30 year olds off the line and at the quarter mile.

He can also kick a little butt when he needs to.

Buzz Aldrin is pushing 70 and he still decked Bart Sibrel with one punch. (OK, Sibrel REALLY had it coming, but....)

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

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H. Humbert
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Posted - 07/14/2007 :  09:01:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
Making a 70 year old woman bleed for not watering the lawn?


But they didn't make her bleed, Jerome. Your own link says the woman tripped on the stairs. Jesus, you have the memory of a gnat.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
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Posted - 07/14/2007 :  09:16:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by H. Humbert

Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
Making a 70 year old woman bleed for not watering the lawn?


But they didn't make her bleed, Jerome. Your own link says the woman tripped on the stairs. Jesus, you have the memory of a gnat.


Uh, from all indications, Jerome doesn't actually bother to read the material at he links he posts here. And you should be careful, HH. Some gnat who has been lurking is likely to take justifiable offense at your comparison with Gnome. That would gnot be gnice.




Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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