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JEROME DA GNOME
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 Posted - 09/03/2007 : 20:29:53 [Permalink]
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Cune, it did not take me long.
| The vote was supposed to be until 1 or 2 pm, but GOP security prevented registered Delegates from entering the building who were wearing Ron Paul signs at 10am. |
You can see the video here of Ron Paul supporters not being allowed in whilst other delegates are allowed in.
Looks like more than just a media conspiracy. |
What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell |
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JEROME DA GNOME
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 Posted - 09/03/2007 : 20:36:16 [Permalink]
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Here is the longer video:http://voteinsunshine.blogspot.com/
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What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell |
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Cuneiformist
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 Posted - 09/04/2007 : 03:50:24 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
Cune, it did not take me long.
| The vote was supposed to be until 1 or 2 pm, but GOP security prevented registered Delegates from entering the building who were wearing Ron Paul signs at 10am. |
You can see the video here of Ron Paul supporters not being allowed in whilst other delegates are allowed in.
Looks like more than just a media conspiracy.
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No, it looks more like the people in question were rather incompetent. |
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Dude
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Posted - 09/05/2007 : 02:57:21 [Permalink]
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JDG said:
I am sure that the amount of votes, not amount of money is how elections are decided in America.
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Then you have obviously not been paying attention.
Its ALL about the money.
He (or she) who hires the best PR firm and can buy the most airtime will be the next president.
Blame the 6 second attention span of most US voters.
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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Posted - 09/05/2007 : 04:25:40 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
JDG said:
I am sure that the amount of votes, not amount of money is how elections are decided in America.
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Then you have obviously not been paying attention.
Its ALL about the money.
He (or she) who hires the best PR firm and can buy the most airtime will be the next president.
Blame the 6 second attention span of most US voters.
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I thought Jerome was being sarcastic here, Dude... |
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JEROME DA GNOME
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 Posted - 09/05/2007 : 08:01:35 [Permalink]
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Exclusion of voters that have the right to vote is not a fair election. Are elections real anymore?
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What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell |
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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 09/05/2007 : 08:27:02 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
Exclusion of voters that have the right to vote is not a fair election. Are elections real anymore? |
If you're talking about the Ron Paul incident at the Texas Straw Poll and the video you showed, it's clear that this wasn't the case. Everyone who was allowed in the building had a "credentials" pass. The Ron Paul people in the video (and obviously not ALL Ron Paul people; he still got 16% of the vote) had lots of Ron Paul stickers. That's it. If they didn't get their credentials, that's not evidence of some grand conspiracy, that's evidence that the select group of Ron Paul supporters weren't properly informed (or didn't pay attention) regarding how to get their credentials. The person in the video who whines that you have to go inside to get your credentials is obviously mistaken; else how did all the other people get theirs? |
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JEROME DA GNOME
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 Posted - 09/06/2007 : 19:10:04 [Permalink]
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FOX NEWS DEBATE POLL - who won the debate?
33% - Ron Paul
18% - Mike Huckabee
15% - Rudy Giuliani
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Second tier won another debate.
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What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell |
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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 09/06/2007 : 19:42:29 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
FOX NEWS DEBATE POLL - who won the debate?
33% - Ron Paul
18% - Mike Huckabee
15% - Rudy Giuliani
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Second tier won another debate.
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I'm not sure that this is entirely newsworthy, especially without a source. With Google, I only came up with a few hits, and main one of which was obviously some whiny Ron Paul sympathizer (it seems like most of them are) but he didn't give any references, either. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/06/2007 : 20:10:17 [Permalink]
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Well, I just blew 10 minutes of my life searching the Fox News website for any hint of this poll. It certainly doesn't show up as a current poll or in their poll archives.
Besides, if this poll is like most others these days, Ron Paul winning is sorta like Larry King's audience being 71% atheists. |
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JEROME DA GNOME
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 Posted - 09/06/2007 : 20:39:15 [Permalink]
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Where are the embedded videos?
Paul wins and Fox lies about it.
If they lie on live TV, why would they post the info on the web?
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What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/06/2007 : 20:50:53 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
Where are the embedded videos? |
They're not going to be here for a long, long time.Why didn't you post that link the first time around?
Besides, nobody could vote more than once in the Larry King religion poll, either. Ron Paul winning a hopelessly uncontrolled and unscientific poll is meaningless. |
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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 09/06/2007 : 20:58:34 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
Where are the embedded videos? |
They're not going to be here for a long, long time.Why didn't you post that link the first time around?
Besides, nobody could vote more than once in the Larry King religion poll, either. Ron Paul winning a hopelessly uncontrolled and unscientific poll is meaningless.
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In the Larry King poll, all one had to do was clear their cache.
What is meaningless is the vote. What I find amusing is the anger people internalize over a process that has been shown corrupted for a very long time.
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What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/06/2007 : 21:00:36 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME
What is meaningless is the vote. What I find amusing is the anger people internalize over a process that has been shown corrupted for a very long time. |
Then what is the point of this whole thread? |
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Media Ignores Straw Poll Winner
