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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  08:53:31  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
amanita muscaria















Is this the hidden knowledge of Christianity?



Edit: Dumb Jerome makes pictures too big.



What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell

Edited by - JEROME DA GNOME on 09/09/2007 09:45:32

JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  09:01:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This would also explain Moses seeing and talking to a burning bush that did not burn.



What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  09:11:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If I'm not mistaken, the scholar John Allegro had some idea related to this and published it as a book that was more or less trashed by academia.
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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  09:18:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Cuneiformist

If I'm not mistaken, the scholar John Allegro had some idea related to this and published it as a book that was more or less trashed by academia.


You are correct. He was also one of the only researchers on the dead sea scrolls project that did not have affiliation with the church and spoke out about the church attempting to stifle and hide the research.


What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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Kil
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  09:39:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So, Jerome, can I get you to resize the first image on your post? I am getting really tired of links and images that mess up threads...


Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  09:42:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

So, Jerome, can I get you to resize the first image on your post? I am getting really tired of links and images the mess up threads...


Sorry, I thought the parameters to stay with in were less than 600x600.


Please give me the correct parameters.


What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  09:46:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME

Originally posted by Cuneiformist

If I'm not mistaken, the scholar John Allegro had some idea related to this and published it as a book that was more or less trashed by academia.


You are correct. He was also one of the only researchers on the dead sea scrolls project that did not have affiliation with the church and spoke out about the church attempting to stifle and hide the research.
Well, that's not entirely correct-- it was just the so-called Cave 4 material and Roland de Vaux's group who were such a huge problem. Now, I think, everything has been published.
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Kil
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  09:50:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME

Originally posted by Kil

So, Jerome, can I get you to resize the first image on your post? I am getting really tired of links and images the mess up threads...


Sorry, I thought the parameters to stay with in were less than 600x600.


Please give me the correct parameters.


Ask Dave. And perhaps we should add that to the FAQ.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  09:59:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil
Ask Dave. And perhaps we should add that to the FAQ.


If one of these mushrooms is eaten the image size will change at irregular intervals. Have you ever eaten one?


What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  10:09:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME

Please give me the correct parameters.
Whatever fails to generate complaints about the threads getting messed up. 600 wide quite probably screws up people with 800-wide monitors.

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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  14:09:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME

Originally posted by Kil
Ask Dave. And perhaps we should add that to the FAQ.


If one of these mushrooms is eaten the image size will change at irregular intervals. Have you ever eaten one?


Weird factiod: A. muscaria is also known as 'fly agaric.' It is dried and a little is put in a shallow saucer of milk. The milk attracts house flies who drink a little, start tripping, then fall in and drown. Neat!

If you try to eat one, you will puke up your spincter and quite possibly your socks. Mostly they are dried and smoked in small quanity, or added to tea.

Hey, what do you think the Indians smoked in those peace pipes?




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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  16:54:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A progression of drawings during a "trip" induced during government testing.



A progression of drawings during a "trip" induced during government testing.

What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  18:29:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Jerome, I know you sometimes like to just throw things out for discussion, and other times really want a debate. I'm not clear what you want here. Is this just idle chatter, or are you really making an argument?
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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  18:34:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send JEROME DA GNOME a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Cuneiformist

Jerome, I know you sometimes like to just throw things out for discussion, and other times really want a debate. I'm not clear what you want here. Is this just idle chatter, or are you really making an argument?


I thought this would be an interesting topic for a talk with a perspective I have never heard from concerning the relationship between religion and drugs.


What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell
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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  19:58:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by JEROME DA GNOME

Originally posted by Cuneiformist

Jerome, I know you sometimes like to just throw things out for discussion, and other times really want a debate. I'm not clear what you want here. Is this just idle chatter, or are you really making an argument?


I thought this would be an interesting topic for a talk with a perspective I have never heard from concerning the relationship between religion and drugs.


I see. Well, it's certainly an interesting topic, though I doubt that either early Christianity or Judaism much that was based on drugs (besides wine...)
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/09/2007 :  20:07:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Cuneiformist

...I doubt that either early Christianity or Judaism much that was based on drugs (besides wine...)
I could have sworn that we had a longish thread here about a "High Times" article that claimed that the "annointing" in the Bible was done with marijuana, but I can't find the topic now.

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