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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 09/18/2007 : 12:40:42
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http://www.wmtw.com/news/14139329/detail.html
Woman checks out books she deems offensive from library and refuses to return them. I see this becoming a national trend. Perhaps its time do de-gidions all the hotels we visit...JK
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"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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pleco
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Posted - 09/18/2007 : 13:10:38 [Permalink]
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| Perhaps they will fine her into bankruptcy. |
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Ricky
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pleco
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USA
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Posted - 09/18/2007 : 16:45:32 [Permalink]
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| It also means that this woman had to search out and look at the pictures in the first place to deem them offensive. Hmmm..... |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 09/18/2007 : 17:06:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ricky
I'm not certain if you can call this censorship. However, it is a disturbing case of idiocy. So the library has to take her $20 and by new copies of the book. What exactly did this accomplish? |
Well, if the book is out of print, so that even if she reimburses the library the cost of the book they are still unable to replace it, would you consider it censorship then?
Otherwise, I agree with you. All the woman is doing is providing the library with new copies of the offending book, which I must consider a net gain for the library.
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 09/18/2007 : 17:36:28 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
Well, if the book is out of print... |
It's $17.15 at Amazon. From the article:Lewiston library director Rick Speer returned the check, along with a form Karkos could use to request that the book be removed from the shelves. But he said he may seek help from police if she doesn't return what she borrowed. But the simplest solution would have been to cash the check, buy another copy of the book, and let Karkos do it again. And again. And again. It would only make the publisher slightly more likely to print more copies, and it'd keep that $20, $40, $60 (etc.) out of the hands of people with serious schemes to keep books away from kids. In other words, Karkos' scheme could have just been a waste of Karkos' time and money, and increased sales of book in question.
Hell, the fact that this got news coverage will ultimately have the opposite effect of what she wants.
Edited: but->buy |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 09/18/2007 : 18:17:19 [Permalink]
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The woman is merely a thief. Sending in a check to pay for something that wasn't for sale changes nothing. And yes, in my opinion, it is censorship, even though not committed by the state. JoAn Karkos should be cited for petty theft each time she does this.
I think the nation's librarians will stand up pretty well to this kind of abuse. They have a long history of fighting censorship.
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maledoro
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 09/20/2007 : 11:15:03 [Permalink]
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She might have stolen them because she's a pervert.
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Boron10
Religion Moderator
USA
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Posted - 09/20/2007 : 12:32:44 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by maledoro
She might have stolen them because she's a pervert. |
I have the same complaint as in this post. |
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JohnOAS
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Australia
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Posted - 09/20/2007 : 18:39:20 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Boron10
Originally posted by maledoro
She might have stolen them because she's a pervert. |
I have the same complaint as in this post.
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If you mean you can't see the image in maledoro's post 2 before this one, I can see it OK, and it's just a winking smiley.
An blue version of this one,  with a more toothy smile.
As an aside, I think maledoro's icon is more biologically accurate. It's not an expression I use often, but the smiley wink seems to pull the corner of my mouth up on the same side as the winking eye, but maybe that's just me. |
John's just this guy, you know. |
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JEROME DA GNOME
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Posted - 09/20/2007 : 18:57:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by JohnOAS
It's not an expression I use often, but the smiley wink seems to pull the corner of my mouth up on the same side as the winking eye, but maybe that's just me.
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I just tried the task. I also have a hard time winking in the manner of the icon.
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What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/20/2007 : 19:09:18 [Permalink]
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Let's criticize more biologically incorrect smileys...
 is green.
 has an arm that apparently can extend out from his ear canal.
And  can change the shape of his skull through sheer force of will.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
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Posted - 09/20/2007 : 20:27:07 [Permalink]
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Here is an edited, more neurologically-correct version of the winkie. I release any and all rights to it.:
[Edited again, to try to get transparency right. Failed!]
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| Edited by - HalfMooner on 09/20/2007 21:24:48 |
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JEROME DA GNOME
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 Posted - 09/20/2007 : 20:28:12 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
Here is an edited, more neurologically-correct version of the winkie. I release any and all rights to it.:
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What a man believes upon grossly insufficient evidence is an index into his desires -- desires of which he himself is often unconscious. If a man is offered a fact which goes against his instincts, he will scrutinize it closely, and unless the evidence is overwhelming, he will refuse to believe it. If, on the other hand, he is offered something which affords a reason for acting in accordance to his instincts, he will accept it even on the slightest evidence. The origin of myths is explained in this way. - Bertrand Russell |
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moakley
SFN Regular
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Posted - 09/20/2007 : 21:02:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
Perhaps its time do de-gidions all the hotels we visit...JK
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Hmmmm. 
I spend about 120 nights a year in hotels rooms. Some times when I enter the room I will discover that some well intentioned person has left one in plain sight, perhaps even opened to some page. I never thought of taking the bible, but I do remove it from where it was left. I don't put it in a drawer. As you know most beds in hotel rooms are a mattress and box springs sitting some frame with solid sides. Well, you guessed it, I lift up the box springs and toss it underneath.
Am I guilty of censorship as well? |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 09/20/2007 : 21:12:14 [Permalink]
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And here's a "Screamie" I made from Edvard Munch's "The Scream" : |
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Disturbing new case of censorship
