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the_ignored
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 Posted - 10/16/2007 : 09:31:21
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It may be that the more religious a country is, the more crime and other problems they have. That's what this article seems to imply, though I've not read much of it. It could be useful in morality and religion arguments.
We can at least say, perhaps, that religion isn't the be-all and cure-all that its advocates claim, and that "atheistic naturalism" isn't to blame for everything.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
Edited by - the_ignored on 10/16/2007 09:46:13
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Ghost_Skeptic
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Posted - 10/17/2007 : 04:54:29 [Permalink]
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Very interesting - from the Abstract
Data correlations show that in almost all regards the highly secular democracies consistently enjoy low rates of societal dysfunction, while pro-religious and antievolution
America performs poorly. |
This paper generally shows an inverse correlation between religiousity and societal well being among industrialized democracies. There does not seem to be any cherry picking, most of the correlations hold even if the worst case (the US) is excluded.
Since this study considers only industrialized "First World" countries it strongly points to religious belief being the cause of such social ills as high under 5 mortality and high teen pregnancy and STD rates, rather than these simply being a result of a low standard of living. It shows that the higher the proportion of atheists in a country, the lower the abortion rate.
There was no correlation between religous belief and homicide rate if you exclude the outlier of the appallingly high US homicide rate.
Another outlier was the high 15-24 suicide rate for Australia. I am guessing that this is due to a high suicide rate among young aborigines, similar to the high suicide rate among Canadian Indians in this age group. - Any info on this JohnOAS?
In a nutshell, it shows that those who claim that religion is a source of morality or that acceptance of evolution leads to crime and misery and promiscuity are full of shit. This paper was published in the peer reviewed Journal of Religion & Society, not in some angry atheist publication. |
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History is made by stupid people - The Arrogant Worms
"The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism." - William Osler
"Religion is the natural home of the psychopath" - Pat Condell
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 10/17/2007 : 05:49:27 [Permalink]
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Interesting enough, that one is. It rather supports what I've said about religion being the greatest evil any species has ever inflicted upon itself.
It would indeed, make a good reference.
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Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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The Rat
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Canada
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Posted - 10/20/2007 : 23:56:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by the_ignored
It may be that the more religious a country is, the more crime and other problems they have. |
And that may have historic precedence. Look at the differences between the colonialism of England and Spain. Spain was heavily influenced by the Catholic church, whereas England ran a more secular system. Now look at the state of their old empires today and then ask yourself where you would sooner live, in an ex-English colony or an ex-Spanish one? Canada versus Colombia, or Australia versus The Phillipines?
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Ghost_Skeptic
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Posted - 10/21/2007 : 00:06:43 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
Interesting enough, that one is. It rather supports what I've said about religion being the greatest evil any species has ever inflicted upon itself.
It would indeed, make a good reference.
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That is why I saved that Paper to my hard drive. |
"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. / You can send a kid to college but you can't make him think." - B.B. King
History is made by stupid people - The Arrogant Worms
"The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism." - William Osler
"Religion is the natural home of the psychopath" - Pat Condell
"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter" - Thomas Jefferson |
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More religion, more problems?
